"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
Went to a Comic Con today as Summer Snake. Will post pics.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
I really like the bit from MGS2 when Otacon breaks down and Snake is just like

Yo Hal you gotta get them hostages on the chopper, but we're still bros so here lets do a handshake

I can't remember it exactly though


 
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Why do you hate MGS4?
My thoughts in a nutshell:

1. Kojima Productions only made it because Kojima was receiving death threats due to the ambiguity of MGS2's ending. There was no reason for creating a chronological sequel to Sons of Liberty other than to ensure Kojima's well-being.

2. Snake's psychological
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inability to kill himself at the end of the game
ruins the character established over the last two decades.

3. There are 9 hours of cutscenes that could but brought down to 5 if they cut out what wasn't needed (Ex. Drebin's monkey smoking and drinking Cola). Which wouldn't be a problem if the gameplay length was greater, but it isn't.

4. Boss battles are shallow and uninspired.

5.
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Big Boss - the titular antagonist of the entire franchise - is brought back to life at the end of the game, for five minutes, just so they can kill off again. All the while, milking Snake Eater's ending just to cheaply emotionalise the player. What's worse, is that they didn't have to do that. David lighting Jack's cigar is a much more emotionally-appropriate and touching scene for the game to have, and it's tainted by the salute.

6. Too much emphasis on weaponry makes it seem that neither stealth nor any of the game's other assets were a high-priority for the developer.

7.
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Nanomachines are used as a cheap way to "fix" what Sons of Liberty's story did "wrong".

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I still remember the first time I played it. And there was some soldier with the shits. He was even hiding in a trash can or something. I was like lol what the fuck.

Johnny Sasaki, aka the guard Meryl knocks-out in MGS1, aka the guard that watches Solid Snake in MGS1, aka the guard that has a bad case of the shits in MGS2, aka the grandson of the guard that watches Naked Snake in MGS3.


 
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Fan service

I'm okay with fan service, but at least give us a half assed explanation.

Then you're going to hate MGS4.


 
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Why do the bad guys get all the best lines, while the protagonists are stuck repeating the key words of whatever they've just been told?

Traditionally, the protagonists of the Metal Gear series frequently interject other character's speech to create the illusion that they're engaged in a two-way conversation. In Japanese, this is called Aizuchi.

Things like

"Whatever it was, it looked unmanned."

"Unmanned?"

are used frequently in Japanese dialogue. Thankfully in The Phantom Pain, Kojima cut this down quite a bit to make facial capture more emphasised and the character interaction more realistic.

This video shows just how ridiculous it actually is when you think about it.

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Went to a Comic Con today as Summer Snake. Will post pics.

Please, do!

I really like the bit from MGS2 when Otacon breaks down and Snake is just like

"Yo, Hal, you gotta get them hostages on the chopper, but we're still bros so here lets do a handshake."

"Otacon, try to get as many hostages out as you can. It's a short flight to the shore, so don't worry about overloading the Kamov."



 
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Also, the new trailer is being released on the 25th. That's Tuesday.

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/635419706350956544

"The launch trailer of MGSV TPP edited by myself, "METAL GEAR's Evolution & Harmony" will be out on 25th in US time."


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this is a good line


 
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this is a good line

As opposed to one of my Polish animes.


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8 days now in the UK, and if I'm lucky my copy will arrive a day early


 
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Oh yes. GOTY here. Perfect scores everywhere. The only complaint being the plot is hard to understand. (From what I've read so far)


 
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Fuck's sake man. Now that the reviews are confirming everything I hoped would be the case, and now that i've played Ground Zeroes over and over this last month, six months or so after I played it the first time, I have no choice but to buy the bloody game.

There goes Halo 5 and Fallout 4. Ffs Kojima


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
"You never asked." - Iroquois Plisken


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
"He who dares, wins"
Why did Plisken, a US Marine, quote an SAS motto?


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Ugh, I want to pre-order Phantom Pain but I haven't even beaten MGS 1 yet. Heeeeelp.


 
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"Whatever it was, it looked unmanned."

"Unmanned?"
this is one of my biggest pet peeves ever when it comes to dialogue

fucking anime
Last Edit: August 23, 2015, 09:48:09 PM by Verbatim


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"Whatever it was, it looked unmanned."

"Unmanned?"
this is one of my biggest pet peeves ever when it comes to dialogue

fucking anime
Anime?

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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
its the best, pure auditory and visual perfection


 
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Oh yes. GOTY here. Perfect scores everywhere. The only complaint being the plot is hard to understand. (From what I've read so far)

MGS4 got perfect scores, too.

I'm still reserving the right to review it for myself.


 
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"He who dares, wins"
Why did Plisken, a US Marine, quote an SAS motto?

Because he felt like it.

Seriously. Plisken=Snake, but Snake was never a marine. He might've gotten them confused but they never cleared that up. It's more than likely that he just said the SAS motto so that Stillman could generate doubt for Raiden about who Pliskin was.
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So, we're only 8 days away now. Review embargo has lifted, and it's looking. . . pretty good. I don't know what it is, but it's taking everything in me not to go and read GameOverGreggy's review. He and I agreed that Peace Walker was the best game of last generation, so I wanna hear his thoughts on The Phantom Pain.

Anyways, today's question is: what's your favourite Metal Gear-related song/composition? My favourite is either

Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - Theme of Solid Snake
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Calling to the Night (Piano Version)- Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
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Love Theme - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
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"Whatever it was, it looked unmanned."

"Unmanned?"
this is one of my biggest pet peeves ever when it comes to dialogue

fucking anime

It's actually used in day-to-day conversations in Japanese. Things like grunting and stuff are used to demonstrate the you're actively listening to the other person.

It's not a writing or fictitious tool Japanese writers use, it's actually apart of their culture.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Plisken=Snake
But he took the name out of respect or something, right? The real Solid Snake died in that tanker accident two years ago.

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Snake was a Green Beret, though. It's easier to assume he was trying to indirectly make Raiden start questioning things around him.
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Plisken=Snake
But he took the name out of respect or something, right? The real Solid Snake died in that tanker accident two years ago.

No, he took it to keep his identity a secret. He used "Plissken" as a reference to "Snake Plissken" from "Escape from New York", and he used "Iroquois" as a reference to one of the biggest Native American tribes based in New York, "Iroquois". "Iroquois" also means "black snake" in Huron.


 
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Generic but I like it. :P