Anita Sarkeesian: Lingerie is not Armor - Tropes vs Women in Video Games

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Is that a thing?
it's called veganism

are you fucking 8 years old

though tbf, mayonnaise is not vegan, so maybe you were CONFUSED
Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 02:27:53 PM by Verbatim


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Is that a thing?
it's called veganism

are you fucking 8 years old

though tbf, mayonnaise is not vegan, so maybe you were CONFUSED

 "mayonnaise is not vegan"

I'm glad that dawned on you, edgy boy.


 
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"mayonnaise is not vegan"

I'm glad that dawned on you, edgy boy.
and somehow, it didn't dawn on you, even though it should've been trivial to glean what he was talking about, despite his error

honestly, you're such a genius for not being able to figure that out
Last Edit: June 09, 2016, 02:35:37 PM by Verbatim


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There's nothing wrong with depicting women as sexy in art and if that makes you uncomfortable you should check your gay privilege


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
That was enjoyable.

Imma make a sandwich, want one Verb?
He can only eat tomato and mayo sammich.

Is that a thing?
a little dash of salt and it's the best goddamn sandwich you'll ever fucking eat.


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a little dash of salt and it's the best goddamn sandwich you'll ever fucking eat.
I wouldn't go that far.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Why do these threads get 7 pages of replies EVERY single fucking time


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Why do these threads get 7 pages of replies EVERY single fucking time
Mass triggering.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Why do these threads get 7 pages of replies EVERY single fucking time
Mass triggering.
Verb just has a raging semi for this bitch. Not sure what there is to get triggered over.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Why do these threads get 7 pages of replies EVERY single fucking time
Two pages of discussion
Four pages of semantic bullshittery
One page of memes and bad jokes


 
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This IS real armor
Spoiler

This is not
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This IS real armor
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lol nope


 
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A better comparison would be a biologist (feminist) saying that all scientists (egalitarians) are biologists (feminists) because they share a few beliefs.


 
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A better comparison would be a biologist (feminist) saying that all scientists (egalitarians) are biologists (feminists) because they share a few beliefs.
That would actually be a godawful LC-tier comparison, but considering you're LC, I guess I'll have to explain why that's a bad thing.

It would be a better comparison if feminism was some complex ideology--but it isn't. It's one simple belief: Women should have equal rights. And that one simple belief falls very gently in place with egalitarianism.

It's not that egalitarianism shares a "few" beliefs with feminists--it shares ALL of them. All one of them, in fact.
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That was enjoyable.

Imma make a sandwich, want one Verb?
He can only eat tomato and mayo sammich.
Can't have mayo, actually. Shit has dairy. Oops I'm wrong, but it does contain egg.
What kinda sandwiches do you eat?



 
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A better comparison would be a biologist (feminist) saying that all scientists (egalitarians) are biologists (feminists) because they share a few beliefs.
That would actually be a godawful LC-tier comparison, but considering you're LC, I guess I'll have to explain why that's a bad thing.

It would be a better comparison if feminism was some complex ideology--but it isn't. It's one simple belief: Women should have equal rights. And that one simple belief falls very gently in place with egalitarianism.

It's not that egalitarianism shares a "few" beliefs with feminists--it shares ALL of them. All one of them, in fact.

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fem·i·nism
ˈfeməˌnizəm/Submit
noun
noun: feminism
the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

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e·gal·i·tar·i·an
iˌɡaləˈterēən/
adjective
1.
of, relating to, or believing in the principle that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities.

I don't really care for whatever made up definitions you've made so if you're using those you might as well not even bother responding.


 
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I don't really care for whatever made up definitions you've made so if you're using those you might as well not even bother responding.
Of course I'm using those. They prove my point.

Thank you for accepting that all egalitarians are feminists by definition.


 
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I don't really care for whatever made up definitions you've made so if you're using those you might as well not even bother responding.
Of course I'm using those. They prove my point.

Thank you for accepting that all egalitarians are feminists by definition.

Feminists by definition are only focus on women, egalitarians by definition focus on everyone.

Being one does not automatically make you the other, however they are not mutually exclusive and it is possible to be both. There's nothing more to say really.


 
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Feminists by definition are only focus on women, egalitarians by definition focus on everyone.
Everyone including women.

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Being one does not automatically make you the other, however they are not mutually exclusive and it is possible to be both. There's nothing more to say really.
It is impossible NOT to be both.


 
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Feminists by definition are only focus on women, egalitarians by definition focus on everyone.
Everyone including women.

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Being one does not automatically make you the other, however they are not mutually exclusive and it is possible to be both. There's nothing more to say really.
It is impossible NOT to be both.

Not really, but you'll never actually listen to anyone saying otherwise so there's no reason to bother having this conversation.


 
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Not really, but you'll never actually listen to anyone saying otherwise so there's no reason to bother having this conversation.
If you're not a feminist, that means you believe women should NOT have equal rights.

If you believe that, you cannot be an egalitarian. You MUST be a feminist.


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Not really, but you'll never actually listen to anyone saying otherwise so there's no reason to bother having this conversation.
If you're not a feminist, that means you believe women should NOT have equal rights.

If you believe that, you cannot be an egalitarian. You MUST be a feminist.
Sure Im all for equal rights. But theyve had that for years. Shit like this isnt what you call feminism, its a rant about irrelevant nonsense.

Just to edit this in, people dont like to associate themselves with the word 'feminism' because of what the modern 'feminists' have done to it. Which really is an embarrassment.  Can you blame us?
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So what exactly would a real egalitarian do to accomplish their goal?  Sounds exactly like an #AllLivesMatters kid, who defensively bitches on internet forums and Facebook at anyone who points out a problem, without actually doing or offering anything themselves.

Also, I like how the self-proclaimed egalitarian also started off with "pffft women have nothing left to bitch about except 3D models".  Yup.  Nothing left.


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So what exactly would a real egalitarian do to accomplish their goal?  Sounds exactly like an #AllLivesMatters kid, who defensively bitches on internet forums and Facebook at anyone who points out a problem, without actually doing or offering anything themselves.

Also, I like how the self-proclaimed egalitarian also started off with "pffft women have nothing left to bitch about except 3D models".  Yup.  Nothing left.
You know, if you are concerned about things that happen in video games - then clearly you don't have real problems.

People who complain about women in video games, DO NOT REPRESENT ALL WOMEN. Do you think Syrian women give a single half of a fuck about what women wear in vidya? Yeah, that's right - they have real problems.


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You know, if you are concerned about things that happen in video games - then clearly you don't have real problems.

People who complain about women in video games, DO NOT REPRESENT ALL WOMEN. Do you think Syrian women give a single half of a fuck about what women wear in vidya? Yeah, that's right - they have real problems.
It's pretty ironic and close-minded:
-To think there is 100% gender equality here currently
-To think these women have nothing left to do but bitch about 3D models
-To respond to a 16 minute argument with such a condescending and thoughtless argument

...and then preach advocacy for gender-equality.

Why do you have to have "real" problems to look at media analytically?  Why does tackling something like this mean nothing because Syrians have it worse?  That's such a shallow argument, because you can always wave off an issue by saying someone has it worse.  Do we just halt all progress until Syria gets its shit together?

I'm not saying I agree with Anita, but my god do people defensively go after her existence like unintelligible monkeys.  I want to see actual arguments, not "this video is fucking retarded and she's a dumb cunt, but I won't say why".  Once again, they're just a bunch of YouTube videos, and she'd be completely voiceless if people didn't make such a big deal out of her.
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