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>you have to pirate to play video games on PC
yeah because that's what i said

Any game I give a fuck about, you have to pirate it.

Everything on Steam sucks twelve million dicks. Especially what you like.


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I understand that PC gaming is pretty objectively more extensive and open-ended, but it's too expensive for me. I don't have the interest in gaming that I use to, so I can't be bothered to pay for a gaming PC. It just isn't worth it for me.


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>you have to pirate to play video games on PC
yeah because that's what i said

Any game I give a fuck about, you have to pirate it.

Everything on Steam sucks twelve million dicks. Especially what you like.
Well its nice to know you rather use a PC to emulate than just buy whatever game, also I don't need to buy games on PC, any game I want I can get on xbox, few have interested me on PC. And how your subjective enjoyment somehow decreases the seemingly objective value of either PC or console gaming.
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Well its nice to know you rather use a PC to emulate than just buy whatever game
No I wouldn't, because that's illegal and wrong. My point is that console is better because I don't have to break the law in order to play the games I want to play.


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Well its nice to know you rather use a PC to emulate than just buy whatever game
No I wouldn't, because that's illegal and wrong. My point is that console is better because I don't have to break the law in order to play the games I want to play.
Good for you? The games you want are on consoles, your sole enjoyment doesn't validate that, but whatever you want.


 
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Well its nice to know you rather use a PC to emulate than just buy whatever game
No I wouldn't, because that's illegal and wrong. My point is that console is better because I don't have to break the law in order to play the games I want to play.
Good for you? The games you want are on consoles, your sole enjoyment doesn't validate that, but whatever you want.
If I'm not allowed to use "console games are better" as an argument, then no PC gamer is allowed to tell me that their games are better, either. Because then, I can just turn around and say that they all suck. Like you said--your sole enjoyment doesn't validate your claim. That's the point of my argument.

It's really amazing to me how PC gamers bitch and moan when I treat my opinions as facts, but it's totally okay when they do it. Yeah, that makes so much sense.
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Well its nice to know you rather use a PC to emulate than just buy whatever game
No I wouldn't, because that's illegal and wrong. My point is that console is better because I don't have to break the law in order to play the games I want to play.
Good for you? The games you want are on consoles, your sole enjoyment doesn't validate that, but whatever you want.
If I'm not allowed to use "console games are better" as an argument, then no PC gamer is allowed to tell me that their games are better, either. Because then, I can just turn around and say that they all suck. Like you said--your sole enjoyment doesn't validate your claim. That's the point of my argument.

It's really amazing to me how PC gamers bitch and moan when I treat my opinions as facts, but it's totally okay when they do it. Yeah, that makes so much sense.
Probably because you've been using those silly arguments, thus far in this thread and people (Azu) have been taking that too seriously, aside from the memes, anyone with a head on their shoulders knows each has pros and cons. The only ones that'll scream their heads with autism about this are those on /v/, /vg/, and reddit too I guess.


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PC has a version of battlefront II that doesn't require a controller designed to give you RSI.

PC wins by default


 
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>PS2 for $20 at a flea market

Find me a more cost efficient PC that can run any game at optimal settings.
It's 2016 now. I'm pretty sure that even the most potato of potato PCs these days can run 10+ year old PS2 level games. If you have a decent mobo, you may even be able to run them just by using on-board video. You can also build a PC of comparable or better power to a modern console for roughly the same price.

To address your other point: Unless you were referring to Nintendo, X1/PS4 having "better" games than PC is bullshit and you know it. Most AAA titles these days are multiplatform, and X1/PS4 still don't exactly have any real killer apps as of yet. Sure, Sony has plenty of exclusives, but those are mostly appealing for people who were already fans of Sony. Maybe one or two tops is good enough to justify me spending $300+ on a console, which isn't nearly enough, IMHO. With PC, you effectively get 90% of the same games, a shitload more exclusives, infinitely more longevity (no issues of "backwards compatibility"), and freedom with what you can do with those games (I know you don't like it, but mods are a pretty huge upside to PC gaming.) Not to mention you don't have to pay for XBL/whatever the fuck Sony uses now. The only thing you have to pay to play online is your ISP.

I'm sorry, but PC is just objectively better than X1/PS4. I'm not going to compare Nintendo, because Nintendo is in it's own league and can't really be compared due to it being Nintendo and hosting completely different genres and appealing to completely different demographics than what is typical of other platforms.
I'm gonna have to respond later, but thank you for the substantive response. There's actually some worthy discussion points you brought up, unlike what I've been dealing with in this thread with LC/azu/Batch.

He didn't really say anything different though.


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I'm about to blow +1k plus on a PC.

Verbatim, stop me!


 
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I'm about to blow +1k plus on a PC.

Verbatim, stop me!

You'll be playing better quality games and saving money in the long run by paying less for games and not having to pay $60 a year to use the internet you already pay for.


 
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You'll be playing better quality games
I've thoroughly destroyed this logic.
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and saving money in the long run by paying less for games and not
Shittier games tend to cost less, yes. On console, if you're paying $60 for games instead of waiting for the price drop, that's on you.
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having to pay $60 a year to use the internet you already pay for.
Same applies to console, if you don't care to use XBL or PSN, or if you're a retro gamer.

And no, Husky made way better arguments than you did. You've never made a single valid point. In your life.


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I'm about to blow +1k plus on a PC.

Verbatim, stop me!

You'll be playing better quality games and saving money in the long run by paying less for games and not having to pay $60 a year to use the internet you already pay for.
But my K+M skills are shit. How am I supposed to healslut for Tru when I keep running into walls?


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I'm about to blow +1k plus on a PC.

Verbatim, stop me!

You'll be playing better quality games and saving money in the long run by paying less for games and not having to pay $60 a year to use the internet you already pay for.
But my K+M skills are shit. How am I supposed to healslut for Tru when I keep running into walls?

Most games have controller support nowadays.

Just depends on wether you think that's worth losing some aiming precision (assuming an FPS here)


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Most games have controller support nowadays.

Just depends on wether you think that's worth losing some aiming precision (assuming an FPS here)
The only FPS I'll even play is Overwatch and I literally only play as Mercy on it. I don't use her pistol that often anyway so I guess I can do with a controller.


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Most games have controller support nowadays.

Just depends on wether you think that's worth losing some aiming precision (assuming an FPS here)
The only FPS I'll even play is Overwatch and I literally only play as Mercy on it. I don't use her pistol that often anyway so I guess I can do with a controller.

Ah right

Yeah, it'd be more of a concern in something like, say,counterstrike or something where accuracy is more important.

Of course, recognise that I'm talking out of my arse here because I've only seen 5 minutes of overwatch gameplay in the back of a totalbiscuit video but it seemed like there was a lot of support stuff and AOE attacks going on than just who can get the quickest headshot. Feel free to slap me and call me an idiot if that's not the case though.


 
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Same applies to console, if you don't care to use XBL or PSN, or if you're a retro gamer.
Pretty sure he meant MP

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You'll be playing better quality games
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Shittier games tend to cost less, yes. On console, if you're paying $60 for games instead of waiting for the price drop, that's on you.
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having to pay $60 a year to use the internet you already pay for.
Same applies to console, if you don't care to use XBL or PSN, or if you're a retro gamer.

And no, Husky made way better arguments than you did. You've never made a single valid point. In your life.

Whatever makes you happy dude.


Don't bother, he gets like this whenever he's wrong.
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Don't bother, he gets like this whenever he's wrong.
I have seen it more often with him, but I like to think he's not so ignorant as to make silly statements like that.


 
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Verb I feel the point you're trying to make (pointing out the double standard of what PC players say) is effecting your actual stance on the issue. Seems you're playing more devils advocate (is that the right term for this?) in this thread but it's not panning out too well.


 
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PC is objectively superior. More cost efficient, more games, KB+M, more powerful than consoles, not to mention all the non-gaming shit PCs can do. Blows consoles out of the water. Console plebs are fuckin deluded
also modding that isn't shit


 
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I couldn't give a fuckin shit. In mah opinion, tha only playas whoz ass is at liberty ta chizzle/add shiznit ta tha game is tha pimpers. Everyone else should leave tha game ridin' solo or make they own game. It aint nuthin but like pissin up in a museum.

If tha pimper supports it, like Bethesda do, thatz fine yo, but I still don't smoke wit dat shit. Would you wanna be playaz wit one of mah thugs whoz all gravy wit you pissin all over his house, biatch? I shizzle wouldn't.

"But mah playas has they own copy of tha game."

And you can do whatever you want. By all means, mod. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! I just don't smoke wit it, n' I never will.


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PC is better

But that doesn't mean I want to play it


 
 
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PC:
  • Better hardware by miles
    • -Better graphics
    • -Better performance
    • -Easier to develop for with less limitations
  • PC Costs: cheaper long-term
    • -cheap games + frequent sales
    • -no paying for online
    • -upgrading hardware is cheaper than getting an entirely new console for a new generation
    • -you don't pay to do dumb shit like change your Steam name
  • Customizable hardware, controllers, mics, etc...
  • Mouse/Keyboard infinitely more precise for FPS games (making aim assist mostly unnecessary)
  • Mods
  • Games have chatboxes (this made Battlefield way more entertaining)
  • MMOs and large-scale simulators (ex: Arma & Squad) aren't really a thing on consoles

Consoles:
  • The communities
  • Easy to use UI
  • Exclusives
  • Everything's standardized (can be a good thing sometimes)
  • Almost everyone has the same advantages: you can't blame the other guy for having a 3000000 DPS mouse or something ("almost", because Scuf controllers and modifications can make huge differences)
  • Less prone to cheating/tampering
  • VOIP isn't a pain in the ass to set up
  • Can afford to do gimmicky things (PS4 touch pad, Kinect, Wii motion, etc...): a Wii bases their entire OS around motion controllers, where on PC, you'd pay for all this junk to play 1 or 2 games: no one would do that.
  • Controllers are better for multi-directional control (movement not restricted to WASD...but most PC games have controller support)
  • You don't have to pay attention to hardware compatibility and worry about modifying .ini files to get old games to start
  • Easier to pay for up-front
  • Basically virus-proof, since all software has to be downloaded through the manufacturer's servers
  • A lot of AAA games have the biggest communities on consoles


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"You can hook up your PC to your television and download a program that lets you use gamepads."

I shouldn't have to do any of that

You literally plug the controller in and the drivers automatically download and it's ready to go.
Hooking up a PC to a TV requires just as much work as hooking up a console.


 
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You either die a hero or live long enough to become Mythic..
Seems like the original idea of the thread has kinda gone out the window thanks to Verbatim.

However, take this thread as a way to see that debating on Sep7agon is literal cancer.


 
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You literally plug the controller in and the drivers automatically download and it's ready to go.
Hooking up a PC to a TV requires just as much work as hooking up a console.
Except it doesn't.


 
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Don't bother, he gets like this whenever he's wrong.
But I'm not? I destroyed every single one of your arguments.