Quote from: Jira on January 22, 2015, 11:23:01 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on January 22, 2015, 10:54:39 PMQuote from: Jira on January 22, 2015, 09:03:00 PMA) Gravemind used Precursor knowledge to create his own portal to the Ark, as confirmed by 343.B) Magic, though Forerunner tech is probably not going to let it slide.C) Calculated risk, but Gravemind probably "wanted" it to happen too.343's been fixing a lot of Halo 3's stuff. At least the contradictory things.Hey, did you folks forget ODST or something? ODST explained how they found the portal. Engineers flooded invasion sites and found anomalies. They lucked out over africa when Vergil fused with the AI that overwatched Mombasa and found information on excavation sites that led to something more.At the end of ODST you see other engineers examining the site with Truth floating down to pay a visit. After that they proceeded to glass the shit out of the area.I assumed he meant "why did Regret initially cluster his forces on New Mombasa alone" and not the exact location of the portal itself. QuoteOnly none of these are actually plot holes.Several of these were plot holes until recently. And there are much more pressing ones.The easy answer to that would be not really since we were never shown any other parts of Earth beyond Africa. Australia got dunked and I'd imagine just about every other major population zone got plasma dropped on them too.Don't forget about luminaries though. Helpful tools those things are.
Quote from: Sandtrap on January 22, 2015, 10:54:39 PMQuote from: Jira on January 22, 2015, 09:03:00 PMA) Gravemind used Precursor knowledge to create his own portal to the Ark, as confirmed by 343.B) Magic, though Forerunner tech is probably not going to let it slide.C) Calculated risk, but Gravemind probably "wanted" it to happen too.343's been fixing a lot of Halo 3's stuff. At least the contradictory things.Hey, did you folks forget ODST or something? ODST explained how they found the portal. Engineers flooded invasion sites and found anomalies. They lucked out over africa when Vergil fused with the AI that overwatched Mombasa and found information on excavation sites that led to something more.At the end of ODST you see other engineers examining the site with Truth floating down to pay a visit. After that they proceeded to glass the shit out of the area.I assumed he meant "why did Regret initially cluster his forces on New Mombasa alone" and not the exact location of the portal itself. QuoteOnly none of these are actually plot holes.Several of these were plot holes until recently. And there are much more pressing ones.
Quote from: Jira on January 22, 2015, 09:03:00 PMA) Gravemind used Precursor knowledge to create his own portal to the Ark, as confirmed by 343.B) Magic, though Forerunner tech is probably not going to let it slide.C) Calculated risk, but Gravemind probably "wanted" it to happen too.343's been fixing a lot of Halo 3's stuff. At least the contradictory things.Hey, did you folks forget ODST or something? ODST explained how they found the portal. Engineers flooded invasion sites and found anomalies. They lucked out over africa when Vergil fused with the AI that overwatched Mombasa and found information on excavation sites that led to something more.At the end of ODST you see other engineers examining the site with Truth floating down to pay a visit. After that they proceeded to glass the shit out of the area.
A) Gravemind used Precursor knowledge to create his own portal to the Ark, as confirmed by 343.B) Magic, though Forerunner tech is probably not going to let it slide.C) Calculated risk, but Gravemind probably "wanted" it to happen too.343's been fixing a lot of Halo 3's stuff. At least the contradictory things.
Only none of these are actually plot holes.
A huge one that always bothers me when I start Arrival/Sierra 117. How were Johnson and Miranda able to get back to Earth faster than the Forerunner Dreadnought?
The entire game is a plothole. Big enough for High Charity to actually fly through it.
Quote from: RomanGladiator on January 22, 2015, 08:57:24 PMA huge one that always bothers me when I start Arrival/Sierra 117. How were Johnson and Miranda able to get back to Earth faster than the Forerunner Dreadnought? Most likely with Thel and a group of Elites, and there was never any mention that they arrived before the Dreadnought.
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Quote 1. How the fuck did the Gravemind get to the Ark? The only way to get there was the portal on earth, and if he made it there he could have easily attacked earth. I mean he could have at least launched a couple spores before going through the portal. Well in Halo 2 the Gravemind could teleport Chief and the Arbiter so he must have teleported himself to the Ark when he found its location.Quote 2. How did the Covenant know where the portal on earth was? Yeah, I get that they were told what planet to go to, but how would they know that it was underneath Kenya and not fucking Canada? If anything I bet Truth's Dreadnought had the coordinates to the portal and the rest of the Covenant followed.Quote 3. Why the fuck would Cortana send a flood infected Covenant cruiser to earth just to send a message? She nearly made the species go to extinct, that fucking cunt.When you link up with the Elites on Floodgate, one says that the Flood-Infested Carrier that made it to Earth got past an Elite blockade. Cortana just recorded that message and sent it to Earth.
1. How the fuck did the Gravemind get to the Ark? The only way to get there was the portal on earth, and if he made it there he could have easily attacked earth. I mean he could have at least launched a couple spores before going through the portal.
2. How did the Covenant know where the portal on earth was? Yeah, I get that they were told what planet to go to, but how would they know that it was underneath Kenya and not fucking Canada?
3. Why the fuck would Cortana send a flood infected Covenant cruiser to earth just to send a message? She nearly made the species go to extinct, that fucking cunt.
Quote from: Jono on January 22, 2015, 09:01:37 PMQuote from: RomanGladiator on January 22, 2015, 08:57:24 PMA huge one that always bothers me when I start Arrival/Sierra 117. How were Johnson and Miranda able to get back to Earth faster than the Forerunner Dreadnought? Not only that, but make it to the Crow's Nest and set up operations there. It seems like they've been there for quite some time. What ship did they take? How is it faster than the technologically superior Forerunners? Are Dreadnoughts just really slow in slipspace? How long was Chief laying in the jungle before Johnson and his search party found him? Would be nice to see a comic addressing some of this.I recently played through Halo 3 and was wondering the same things when I was playing on those levels.Halo 3 takes place like 3 months after Halo 2. Read the uprising comics to see what happened between 2 and 3 with the chief.
Quote from: RomanGladiator on January 22, 2015, 08:57:24 PMA huge one that always bothers me when I start Arrival/Sierra 117. How were Johnson and Miranda able to get back to Earth faster than the Forerunner Dreadnought? Not only that, but make it to the Crow's Nest and set up operations there. It seems like they've been there for quite some time. What ship did they take? How is it faster than the technologically superior Forerunners? Are Dreadnoughts just really slow in slipspace? How long was Chief laying in the jungle before Johnson and his search party found him? Would be nice to see a comic addressing some of this.I recently played through Halo 3 and was wondering the same things when I was playing on those levels.
A huge one that always bothers me when I start Arrival/Sierra 117. How were Johnson and Miranda able to get back to Earth faster than the Forerunner Dreadnought? Not only that, but make it to the Crow's Nest and set up operations there. It seems like they've been there for quite some time. What ship did they take? How is it faster than the technologically superior Forerunners? Are Dreadnoughts just really slow in slipspace? How long was Chief laying in the jungle before Johnson and his search party found him? Would be nice to see a comic addressing some of this.
Really the only plot-hole left is how the Bomb got into the Ops Center in Crows Nest.We can talk about pre-343i Halo 3 though.
1. How the fuck did the Gravemind get to the Ark? The only way to get there was the portal on earth, and if he made it there he could have easily attacked earth. I mean he could have at least launched a couple spores before going through the portal. 2. How did the Covenant know where the portal on earth was? Yeah, I get that they were told what planet to go to, but how would they know that it was underneath Kenya and not fucking Canada?3. Why the fuck would Cortana send a flood infected Covenant cruiser to earth just to send a message? She nearly made the species go to extinct, that fucking cunt.
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on January 23, 2015, 01:02:55 AMReally the only plot-hole left is how the Bomb got into the Ops Center in Crows Nest.We can talk about pre-343i Halo 3 though.I've never thought about that. Fucking lol.Also, thought of one for H2; Gravy had access to I05's teleportation grid, why did he not just teleport a shit ton of flood past the quarantine zone?
Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 12:02:58 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on January 23, 2015, 01:02:55 AMReally the only plot-hole left is how the Bomb got into the Ops Center in Crows Nest.We can talk about pre-343i Halo 3 though.I've never thought about that. Fucking lol.Also, thought of one for H2; Gravy had access to I05's teleportation grid, why did he not just teleport a shit ton of flood past the quarantine zone?Dunno. Maybe there's some type of failsafe that only allows a certain mass or volume through the grid at a given time.The other thing to note is that clearly the Gravemind was able to get outside the Quarantine Zone (we see this on how he grabs Chief from the lake), but the interesting question would be why he had no motivation to do so.I can theorize right now that maybe the Gravemind didn't want the Flood to consume the ring. If you think about it, no sentient life would land en mass on Delta Halo if the entire thing was Flood-ified. So he purposely limited the Flood to the Quarantine Zone until sufficient life with off-world transport presented itself. This seems to make sense, because once the Gravemind starts infesting High Charity, the Flood surges across Delta Halo and boarding hundreds of Covenant drop ships, forcing the Sangheili and Jiralhanae to form a temporary truce to cauterize Delta Halo.
That makes a lot more sense. Though his appearance under the lake shows that he must have infiltrated a good portion of the ring. I would presume his lair was in the quraantine zone.
Quote from: Bacon's Shelf on January 23, 2015, 02:21:02 PMThat makes a lot more sense. Though his appearance under the lake shows that he must have infiltrated a good portion of the ring. I would presume his lair was in the quraantine zone.Yup. As Cortana says in Halo 2's High Charity:"That creature beneath the Library, that Gravemind, used us. We were just a diversion."Sidebar: Too bad I wasn't in to Halo 2 that much when Halo 4 was out. I see now how similar the Gravemind and Didact's introductions are. Almost comedic that everyone was bitching about where Cortana got "Didact" from, yet she did the exact same thing in 2004 with the Gravemind.
I really need to know how in the motherfucking shit Keyes, Johnson and Arbiter got to Earth before MC.The only possible ride they could have gotten was from the cruiser that R'tas captured, and he arrived at earth 2 days later.
High Charity literally went to Earth and used the portal there. Regret a shit.She didn't send the ship, Gravemind did. She just took the chance of putting a message aboard it.
Hey here is a question I just thought of, would a human combat form be able to use forerunner switches? Like stopping the rings from firing like Chief does. Or would being floodified mess up the dna too much for it to recognise.
Halo 3 is fucking awesome fuck all of you.
Let's list (and discuss) all the plot holes in Halo 3
