KNACK IS BACK

Incan · December 03, 2016, 12:35:43 PM

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Luciana · December 03, 2016, 12:36:44 PM

UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

big sponge · December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM

Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.

TB · December 03, 2016, 12:48:18 PM

HOLY FUCKINGERHBT%H#%G$@EGTEGH

YEAH BABY

Onion · December 03, 2016, 01:01:04 PM

thanks for giving me a reason to live

RadicalClass32 · December 03, 2016, 01:10:33 PM

Ahh he left too soon.

Big Boss · December 03, 2016, 02:15:43 PM

This meme was dead on arrival

Dietrich Six · December 03, 2016, 02:30:10 PM

Fuck, beat me to it

Spartan · December 03, 2016, 03:03:06 PM

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Coco · December 03, 2016, 03:55:09 PM

Ohhhhhhohoho SHIT. The champ's back, baybeee.

Puro · December 03, 2016, 04:50:22 PM

NO

NOT THIS MEME AGAIN

Gatortag · December 03, 2016, 07:34:12 PM

Surely they can address all the criticisms in this sequel? I never played the first. Can't be that bad though. Might buy it one day if it's like $5. But oh man. Ni No Kuni II, Ace Combat 7, Uncharted 4 expansion, The Last of Us 2. You did good Sony.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · December 03, 2016, 07:36:43 PM

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Mattie G Indahouse · December 04, 2016, 04:29:52 AM

Quote from: Luciana on December 03, 2016, 12:36:44 PM

UH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Did someone say, KNAAACK!

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True Turquoise · December 04, 2016, 06:56:00 AM

Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM

Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.

you reckon they think people will ironically buy it?

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 04, 2016, 09:57:25 AM

Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM

Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.

Two words: Mark Cerny.

And I wouldn't call it "universally panned". It made some 4s, but then it made some 7s. Hopefully the sequel can patch up the problems.

Deleted · December 04, 2016, 10:34:48 AM

Shot through the heart and you're to blame

PS4 HAS NO GAMES

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 04, 2016, 10:38:20 AM

Quote from: Uranium on December 04, 2016, 10:34:48 AM

Shot through the heart and you're to blame
PS4 HAS NO GAMES

Would be funny if it didn't seem like every console has that problem this gen.

Verbatim · December 04, 2016, 11:00:07 AM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 10:38:20 AM

Quote from: Uranium on December 04, 2016, 10:34:48 AM
Shot through the heart and you're to blame
PS4 HAS NO GAMES
Would be funny if it didn't seem like every console has that problem this gen.

would be true if

it were true

Verbatim · December 04, 2016, 11:14:13 AM

granted, there's a few yet-to-be-released games that are all but guaranteed to be quality which i'm including in that equation nonetheless

even if you think everything that's currently out sucks (can't blame you), there's still plenty to look forward to

memes aside

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 12:18:29 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 09:57:25 AM

Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.
Two words: Mark Cerny.

And I wouldn't call it "universally panned". It made some 4s, but then it made some 7s. Hopefully the sequel can patch up the problems.

Umm, the metacritc average is a 54. I also said "near universally" not universally. I'm well aware gamestops marketing magazine gave it a good score to sell copies.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 12:19:10 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on December 04, 2016, 06:56:00 AM

Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.
you reckon they think people will ironically buy it?

I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 04, 2016, 12:50:31 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 12:18:29 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.
Two words: Mark Cerny.

And I wouldn't call it "universally panned". It made some 4s, but then it made some 7s. Hopefully the sequel can patch up the problems.

Umm, the metacritc average is a 54. I also said "near universally" not universally. I'm well aware gamestops marketing magazine gave it a good score to sell copies.

50-ish is closer to "mixed reception" imo, but it's semantics.

And Game Informer gave it an 8.25 btw, Destructoid and VentureBeat gave it 7s.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 12:54:08 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 12:50:31 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.
Two words: Mark Cerny.

And I wouldn't call it "universally panned". It made some 4s, but then it made some 7s. Hopefully the sequel can patch up the problems.

Umm, the metacritc average is a 54. I also said "near universally" not universally. I'm well aware gamestops marketing magazine gave it a good score to sell copies.
50-ish is closer to "mixed reception" imo, but it's semantics.

And Game Informer gave it an 8.25 btw, Destructoid and VentureBeat gave it 7s.

You're pretty generous then because getting averaging at a 54 would be considered failing to most others.

Verbatim · December 04, 2016, 01:06:57 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 12:18:29 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.
Two words: Mark Cerny.

And I wouldn't call it "universally panned". It made some 4s, but then it made some 7s. Hopefully the sequel can patch up the problems.
Umm, the metacritc average is a 54. I also said "near universally" not universally. I'm well aware gamestops marketing magazine gave it a good score to sell copies.

"Pan" is a strong word. 20s-30s on Metacritic would be a universal pan.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 04, 2016, 01:07:05 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 12:54:08 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 09:57:25 AM
Quote from: LC on December 03, 2016, 12:43:40 PM
Not sure how a game that was near universally panned got green-lit for a sequel, but ok.
Two words: Mark Cerny.

And I wouldn't call it "universally panned". It made some 4s, but then it made some 7s. Hopefully the sequel can patch up the problems.

Umm, the metacritc average is a 54. I also said "near universally" not universally. I'm well aware gamestops marketing magazine gave it a good score to sell copies.
50-ish is closer to "mixed reception" imo, but it's semantics.

And Game Informer gave it an 8.25 btw, Destructoid and VentureBeat gave it 7s.

You're pretty generous then because getting averaging at a 54 would be considered failing to most others.

Keep in mind that the average isn't the only factor that you should be looking at. There were few reviews that placed it dead in the middle. They either rated it "favorably" or "poorly". That's the primary reason that it's mixed, because there's not an actual consensus in the reviews. Even then, ratings tend to be kind of shit; it's better to look at what the actual review says. IGN, who gave it a 5.9, said "Knack's shifting size is a great idea that never really grows into anything substantial." Essentially, "Great concept, bad execution." I wouldn't call it a scathing review, but it doesn't hold much for buying the game (which nobody should, it wasn't very good). Hell, Shuhei Yoshida, while disappointed in scores, said that it's not the game that they ever expected to score highly with critics, and that its purpose as a launch title was to show that it catered to audiences other than the hardcore crowd.

Now that they have feedback on everything they did wrong (all of the gameplay elements, basically), I feel a little more confident in the sequel, especially since they don't have the excuse of it being a launch title.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 04:12:24 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 01:07:05 PM

I'm well aware of how metacritic works. I was using it as a quick and dirty resource to show the general reception to it. That being said your quote works against you because a game can have all the good ideas in the world, bit if it's bad at the execution, you know the actual game part of the game, it's still a bad game no matter how you try to spin it.

Which is why I say you're more forgiving than most since people will generally call a game bad if the game part of it isn't up to snuff.

big sponge · December 04, 2016, 04:20:33 PM

As a side note I don't think a game being released at launch is a valid excuse. Off the top of my head I can think of three games that released at launch (maybe 4, but I didn't pay attention to the 360 launch so I don't know if gears was actually a launch title or not) that were still good games.

Halo:CE, SSBM, and Super Mario Sunshine.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 04, 2016, 04:24:02 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:12:24 PM

Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 04, 2016, 01:07:05 PM

I'm well aware of how metacritic works. I was using it as a quick and dirty resource to show the general reception to it. That being said your quote works against you because a game can have all the good ideas in the world, bit if it's bad at the execution, you know the actual game part of the game, it's still a bad game no matter how you try to spin it.

Which is why I say you're more forgiving than most since people will generally call a game bad if the game part of it isn't up to snuff.

I never said that it's a good game. It's not. I just think "panned" was a bit of an exaggeration.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · December 04, 2016, 04:25:11 PM

Quote from: LC on December 04, 2016, 04:20:33 PM

As a side note I don't think a game being released at launch is a valid excuse. Off the top of my head I can think of three games that released at launch (maybe 4, but I didn't pay attention to the 360 launch so I don't know if gears was actually a launch title or not) that were still good games.

Halo:CE, SSBM, and Super Mario Sunshine.

I don't think it's a good excuse either, except to argue that it was rushed in some way (I don't think it was). Was referring to Yoshida's statement on the game.