Just found this review for MGS4 (lol it's pretty funny)

 
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4/5 Stars - A great game for people with no hands! - May 30th, 2009

I love this game. I don't have any hands, so I was worried the game may be difficult, similar to every other game I've ever played without hands. Boy, was I wrong! This game is 90-100% cutscenes (which are in-game movies that serve, in this case, to further complicate the story.) You don't need hands at all to watch cutscenes, unless you want to skip it, but that will just shorten the wait til the inevitable bad parts of this game (see below). The story is good. It's about a space pirate named One-Eyed Snakes. He's 1000 years old and has robots in his blood to keep him alive. There's a lot of other crazy stuff going on, but I don't want to type it out because I didn't understand it and also I have no hands. My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*. I can relate. Except I didn't kill anyone.

Now for the negative aspects, every once in awhile you will be forced to move Snake around to another area. This is almost always easy to accomplish using your toes. But on occasion, you will have to use some kind of weapon or other multi-button task, I usually let my brother do this even though he only has the left half of his brain. This is irritating if you don't have a brother, but a minor quibble as it is only a small part of the game. Overall I give it two thumbs up.

Painfully true, in all honesty.


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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c


 
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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.


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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.

That scene and the split-screen boss fight against Vamp and the GEKKOs redeemed him after MGS2.


 
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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.

That scene and the split-screen boss fight against Vamp and the GEKKOs redeemed him after MGS2.
I actually didn't mind him that much in MGS2, but yeah, MGS4 made him way more badass. Y'know, before Revengeance ruined him again.


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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.

That scene and the split-screen boss fight against Vamp and the GEKKOs redeemed him after MGS2.
I actually didn't mind him that much in MGS2, but yeah, MGS4 made him way more badass. Y'know, before Revengeance ruined him again.

"Killing is wrong though. Oh wait lemme just kill some more!"

Sam was awesome, though, in my opinion. He was like the new Liquid, who didn't give a shit. The original Liquid, not Ocelot's throat-cancerous manchild Liquid.


 
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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.

That scene and the split-screen boss fight against Vamp and the GEKKOs redeemed him after MGS2.
I actually didn't mind him that much in MGS2, but yeah, MGS4 made him way more badass. Y'know, before Revengeance ruined him again.

"Killing is wrong though. Oh wait lemme just kill some more!"

Sam was awesome, though, in my opinion. He was like the new Liquid, who didn't give a shit. The original Liquid, not Ocelot's throat-cancerous manchild Liquid.

Yeah, Sam was pretty cool. From a gameplay perspective, Revengeance is actually more enjoyable than GoTP, IMO. But the story is just... ugh. It's the Attack of the Clones for Metal Gear.

I did like the Sunny cameo, though. Mostly because it fixed my opinion of her from MGS4 (I hated her a lot in that game).


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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.

That scene and the split-screen boss fight against Vamp and the GEKKOs redeemed him after MGS2.
I actually didn't mind him that much in MGS2, but yeah, MGS4 made him way more badass. Y'know, before Revengeance ruined him again.

"Killing is wrong though. Oh wait lemme just kill some more!"

Sam was awesome, though, in my opinion. He was like the new Liquid, who didn't give a shit. The original Liquid, not Ocelot's throat-cancerous manchild Liquid.

Yeah, Sam was pretty cool. From a gameplay perspective, Revengeance is actually more enjoyable than GoTP, IMO. But the story is just... ugh. It's the Attack of the Clones for Metal Gear.

I did like the Sunny cameo, though. Mostly because it fixed my opinion of her from MGS4 (I hated her a lot in that game).

I didn't mind her too much. I usually hate kids in fiction, but her shenanigans amused me once or twice, and I didn't notice her most of the time.


 
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My favourite part in the game is when a certain character *SPOILER* gets both his arms cut off and has to kill people with a sword in his teeth *SPOILER END*.

...Well, I liked that part. :c

Raiden became one of my favourite characters in MG because of this game.

That scene and the split-screen boss fight against Vamp and the GEKKOs redeemed him after MGS2.
I actually didn't mind him that much in MGS2, but yeah, MGS4 made him way more badass. Y'know, before Revengeance ruined him again.

"Killing is wrong though. Oh wait lemme just kill some more!"

Sam was awesome, though, in my opinion. He was like the new Liquid, who didn't give a shit. The original Liquid, not Ocelot's throat-cancerous manchild Liquid.

Yeah, Sam was pretty cool. From a gameplay perspective, Revengeance is actually more enjoyable than GoTP, IMO. But the story is just... ugh. It's the Attack of the Clones for Metal Gear.

I did like the Sunny cameo, though. Mostly because it fixed my opinion of her from MGS4 (I hated her a lot in that game).

I didn't mind her too much. I usually hate kids in fiction, but her shenanigans amused me once or twice, and I didn't notice her most of the time.

My biggest problem with her (and MGS4) is the character animations. They're all so overdone and weird. Every subtle motion is blown up to unrealistic proportions.

Hell, even Snake pisses me off once in awhile. His slow crawling animation, while funny, is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.


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> You own xbox so you got up to MGS3
> Cries forever
MGS4 is one of the main reasons I want a PS3. *sigh


 
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> You own xbox so you got up to MGS3
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MGS4 is one of the main reasons I want a PS3. *sigh

You used to be able to stream it from PS Now. Not anymore, though.

As much as I dislike the game, it is still a must-play for fans of the series and I don't think people will enjoy MGSV as much if they haven't played it.

And believe me when I tell you, the experience needs to be played, not watched. The cutscenes on youtube might cut it, but youre basically forcing yourself to hate Kojima that way. Just don't do it.



 
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I really treasure Metal Gear Solid 4 as a great game. I think it bridged a fair amount of action, with what you would expect from a Hollywood film. Some of the stages (such as the one where you run from the Raven PMC in Europe) are close to an experience that games should strive to provide.

However, despite those features, I do think it's subpar to Metal Gear Solid 3. The balance between story, action and dialogue was better achieved, and executed all around. Metal Gear Solid 4, just like Old Snake, is a tired story that is struggling to carry itself to a completion and slap a "The End" at a behemoth.

That is also why Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, and The Phantom Pain are drastic developments to achieve both the cinematic immersion, and action in the same experience whilst it upholds the values taken from Metal Gear Solid  3 and maybe from Metal Gear Solid when it comes to dialogues and the overall story.


 
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I really treasure Metal Gear Solid 4 as a great game. I think it bridged a fair amount of action, with what you would expect from a Hollywood film.
I disagree. 9+ hours of cutscenes, some of which go on for 15+ minutes (at the minimum). The opening has a 7 minute dialogue about how "war has changed", allows you to control snake for LITERALLY 5 seconds, and then another two minute cutscene rolls. And that isn't the worst offense, either.The first two chapters of the game are great (the middle east and South America(?)), but it all goes downhill from there. The only redeeming factor after Laughing Octopus (which is a bad fight to begin with), is the introduction to Shadow Moses.


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Some of the stages (such as the one where you run from the Raven PMC in Europe) are close to an experience that games should strive to provide.
I can't... what? Do you mean that games should strive to provide an experience like that?

It was an awful on-rails shooting segment that highlighted the game's slow-moving reticle and poor gunplay. Eva repeats the same shit over and over and and it feels like the Snowmobile section of MW2 without the player control.


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However, despite those features, I do think it's subpar to Metal Gear Solid 3.
And every Metal Gear to date.

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The balance between story, action and dialogue was better achieved, and executed all around. Metal Gear Solid 4, just like Old Snake, is a tired story that is struggling to carry itself to a completion and slap a "The End" at a behemoth.
I think the idea of SS dying would make an interesting story but this whole game ruins MGS2 and 3 for me.

MGS2 established the idea of passing on the torch, and letting go of Solid Snake. The meta narrative in the game is easily the most impressive I've ever seen, but it's ruined by MGS4's acceptance of those events. In MGS2, you are not sure what's real and what's a simulation, and that was part of the intrigue. But MGS4 treats all of those events as if they actually happened, which only further complicates an already complicated narrative.

Not to mention, likable characters like Sigint, Zero, and Para Medic are all said to have changed drastically from their MGS3 counter-parts to sadistic, evil overlords of the world. PM, a movie-loving doctor, changes from her kindhearted personality to the sociopathic doctor that tortures and experiments on Gray Fox. Zero is literally the source of all the world's problems, despite seeming like a good enough friend in MGS3. He doesn't seem to have any real connection to The Boss, at least, not on the level of Jack.

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That is also why Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes, and The Phantom Pain are drastic developments to achieve both the cinematic immersion, and action in the same experience whilst it upholds the values taken from Metal Gear Solid  3 and maybe from Metal Gear Solid when it comes to dialogues and the overall story.

Kojima likes Big Boss a lot more than Solid Snake, so i reckon this game will be the narrative successor to MGS3, if you enjoyed that. As much as I loved MGS2's hidden meanings and such, MGS3 tells a brilliant story without making my brain hurt.

I know MGSV will be GOTY, and I know I shouldn't, but I honestly think it could be the best MG of all time. Fingers crossed, I suppose.