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so, you only care if developers lie

even if it's the smallest thing

and i do consider fps to be one of THE smallest things


 
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I don't disagree with the principle of "lying is bad," obviously, and I respect your decision not to buy games that developers lie about--if only in this instance I didn't find it so petty. If it was anything else--"See that mountain? You can climb it"--I might be able to sympathize a little bit--but I think the concern over fps is just... I don't know, I really think you're just depriving yourself of what might be a good game over... the pettiest thing, and I just don't get it. It's good to have principles, but to me, that's a little extreme.


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so, you only care if developers lie

even if it's the smallest thing

and i do consider fps to be one of THE smallest things
It's a problem of trust. Not trust like between people, but a trust to receive a product that closely resembles or is better than how it was advertised. If a developer puts forth the effort to lie about something so small as the framerate, then I wouldn't trust them to tell the truth about important things.

Bullshots are one thing, they're usually advertised through wordplay and vague promises. I'm not naive of how advertising works, and I wouldn't expect the video game industry to be above it. But there is a clear difference between "advertising tricks" and such uncouth lies. I staunchly believe in a difference in being simply deceptive and outright lying, and consider it a principle not to support the latter.


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You're saying you don't like the cinematic 24 FPS look?


 
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It's a problem of trust. Not trust like between people, but a trust to receive a product that closely resembles or is better than how it was advertised. If a developer puts forth the effort to lie about something so small as the framerate, then I wouldn't trust them to tell the truth about important things.

Bullshots are one thing, they're usually advertised through wordplay and vague promises. I'm not naive of how advertising works, and I wouldn't expect the video game industry to be above it. But there is a clear difference between "advertising tricks" and such uncouth lies. I staunchly believe in a difference in being simply deceptive and outright lying, and consider it a principle not to support the latter.
Well, okay, that more sense. The "gateway lie", for back of a letter term.

That just happened. I just had a text spoonerism. I'm not even gonna correct that.

I still don't necessarily agree just because, the fact is, people do consider FPS to be an "important" feature already, which was my initial contention. And you basically concede that developers are willing and able to lie about basically anything--it's like, how much research do you have to do on the development of these games? I do zero. Phil Fish could shoot up a Denny's and I wouldn't know until a week later. And I know you don't do research on every game's development, either, because if you did, you... let's just say, you wouldn't have as big of a library of games as you have right now.

I can see where you're coming from, though...
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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
I just look towards neutral-ish user reviews that give the pros and cons, watch some gameplay (not first-party or biased sources, of course) and keep up with news on games I'll potentially buy. It's not like you have to spend 15 hours a day watching a twitter feed to know this stuff, it's just preliminary before a purchase.


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"Ornate chandeliers suspended from a vaulted ceiling lit the spacious chamber; Jack tilted his gaze overhead and noticed how far away they were.  His thoughts wove around those bright lights, like a dance of ether masses spiraling in precious unison. Why must we try to clutch desperately for the mere threads of this world when we can clasp onto a tapestry of untold magnificence beyond this plane of existence?"
>tfw remembers the FPS debate between Battlefield 3 and COD MW3


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1080p 60fps should be the standard for the new consoles.

The whole "30fps is more cinematic" argument can go die along with The Order 1886 and 2014 Ubisoft.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
1080p 60fps should be the standard for the new consoles.

The whole "30fps is more cinematic" argument can go die along with The Order 1886 and 2014 Ubisoft.
1080p 60fps is possible for any game so long as they sacrifice AI, number of NPCs, and polygon density in models to do so. That's how Knack did it, and it still dropped frames out the ass.

I completely agree with The Order 1886, but I'd just rather not talk about why it is or isn't going to be a bad game for three pages. I don't think anybody [bar Ubisoft] will disagree with the latter.
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