Jade - Positive Female Characters in Video Games

The Lord Ruler | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Ruler
IP: Logged

9,804 posts
Max characters: 420; characters remaining: 374
Images in your signature must be no greater than 500x100 pixels
^^^what he said


XBL:
PSN: ModernLocust
Steam:
ID: SecondClass
IP: Logged

30,022 posts
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
β€”Judge Aaron Satie
β€”β€”Carmen
Sexualization isn't a gender exclusive thing, Verb. Ever played God of War? Uncharted? Pretty much any game with a gruff male protagonist? We like sex, and showing off some skin (in male and female characters) is a non-issue.

Now, how they're written is another whole story, a point that actually has some merits. Most females fall into the empathetic caretaker or masculine "I don't need no man" stereotypes. That's what we should be trying to fix. Not this put everyone into a winter coat so there's no chance that we might find them sexually attractive nonsense.


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,049 posts
❧
Sexualization isn't a gender exclusive thing, Verb. Ever played God of War? Uncharted? Pretty much any game with a gruff male protagonist? We like sex, and showing off some skin (in male and female characters) is a non-issue.

Now, how they're written is another whole story, a point that actually has some merits. Most females fall into the empathetic caretaker or masculine "I don't need no man" stereotypes. That's what we should be trying to fix. Not this put everyone into a winter coat so there's no chance that we might find them sexually attractive nonsense.
I know sexualization isn't gender exclusive, and I've expressed that in the past (and in this very thread). I still think it's an issue. Just because we like sex doesn't mean we have to exploit it in media.


Deleted | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: ChaosMetalDragon
IP: Logged

10,766 posts
 
Not this put everyone into a winter coat so there's no chance that we might find them sexually attractive nonsense.

Until Anita complains that we are pandering to people with parka fettishes as well as denying women their sexual identity

Checkmate Cis Scun


Comet | Legendary Invincible!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Comet
IP: Logged

3,687 posts
 
Not this put everyone into a winter coat so there's no chance that we might find them sexually attractive nonsense.

Until Anita complains that we are pandering to people with parka fettishes as well as denying women their sexual identity

Checkmate Cis Scun


Mattie G Indahouse | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL: BerzerkCommando
PSN: BerzerkCommando
Steam: BerzerkCommando
ID: BerzerkCommando
IP: Logged

9,047 posts
Did he say glass of juice or gas the Jews?
πŸ‘ΆπŸ½:h..

πŸ‘¨πŸ½:honey, he's gonna say his first words

πŸ‘©πŸ½:!!

πŸ‘ΆπŸ½:hhh...

πŸ‘ΆπŸ½:here come dat boi 🐸!

πŸ‘¨πŸ½:o shit waddup πŸ˜‚πŸ’―

πŸ‘©πŸ½:πŸ’”
I was going to watch that video but when I clicked on the video spoiler to open it the thing asked me to check my privileges first. I guess me being a white straight male caused the video to crash. 


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,049 posts
❧
So, Thunderf00t the fucking idiot (YouTube famous for his "Why do people laugh at creationists" series) made a shitty response video to Anita, so I'll be refuting everything he says here, because it pissed me off just a little bit.

If you thought that Hitman: Absolution showboated Anita Sarkeesian's willingness to make up almost any bullshit just to push an agenda, then you ain't seen nothin' yet.
Really some crazy hyperbole there. I thought that video was pretty bad on Anita's part, and it completely failed to demonstrate her point. Everyone knows this, but if you're honestly going to conflate that flub of a video with this particularly reasonable one at the very beginning of your godawful response, I don't really think you'll have much to say herein.

So now, she's got up this video of what she thinks is a "positive" female character. What a feminist character should look like. Jade, from the game Beyond Good & Evil. And yeah, it's a game for children! With no adult themes whatsoever.
...Who cares? Why bother even mentioning that? What a petty jab.

Cut-priced Lara Croft here, you know, the one with the skintight pink top hugging Jade's normatively beautiful body, and revealing that fantastic pancake-flat midriff? And, of course, her cargo pants, which are just hipster short enough to reveal that Jade is wearing pink panties. All of which Anita has previously told us are "gender signifiers" that degrade women and turn them into mere sex objects.
Which she mentioned in her video. You fucking idiot. It's not like she gave her a free pass on her design. She only mentioned it in passing, sure, because the video was supposed to be about her positives alone. But no character is going to be perfect--not just for Anita, but for everyone. That's kinda how it works.

Thunderf00t then takes a clip of Anita talking about how in the game, character development is built into the narrative in a way that isn't violent, which to her, is a good thing. I wasn't totally on her side there--I don't really think violence is necessarily a bad thing, but at the same time, I can honestly see how someone would dislike the generic "badass" female archetype. So how does Thunderf00t refute it?

...By cherrypicking scenes from the game where there is indeed violence. Wonderful. As if that's really supposed to undermine her general point.

But that was it. That's all he had, pretty much.
Absolutely pathetic.

And yeah, I did post this as a comment on his video, not that he'll ever bother to read it, let alone respond.
Thunderf00t sucks.


A salt rifle | Heroic Unstoppable!
 
more |
XBL: A salt rifle
PSN: A salt rifle
Steam: A salt rifle
ID: Atticus
IP: Logged

1,778 posts
A salt Rifle


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,049 posts
❧
Your point?


Deleted | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: ChaosMetalDragon
IP: Logged

10,766 posts
 
shitstorm in T minus 5...4...3...2...