i'm trying to complete the visuals for my pokedex (not even necessarily collect them all, just see them all) and i can't in fire red because no one has an omastar and you can't acquire one from any of the other gen 3 games including Colosseum and xd.

so now i need to buy leaf green and play up until blaine just to fucking get this shit. ugh.

it might be worth it if any of the gift pokemon/legendary pokemon you'd get from playing through again weren't available in the other games, but i can get all the legendary dogs, starters and hitmons from xd/colosseum.


all i wanna do is get the johto starters in emerald cuz i've never done that but i can't move onto hoenn until i finish kanto.

yeah but see, that's the thing

i wouldn't have to play the same game twice if it weren't for this omastar business

in fire red/leaf green, you can acquire on any given playthrough
~one of the legendary dogs
~one of the kanto starters
~hitmonchan/lee
~electabuzz/magmar
and
~kabutops/omastar

if i get, say, entei in fire red, i'll be able to acquire the other two dogs in colosseum (as well as another entei) and transfer them over to the main games.

if i chose hitmonchan in fire red, i'll be able to get hitmontop in colosseum and hitmonlee in XD.

if i play fire red and get electabuzz, i'll be able to get magmar via XD.


if i choose kabuto in fire red, there's no way of getting omanyte unless i play through virtually the entire game again, resulting in
a) erasing my file
or
b) spending another 30 bucks on the alternate game (leaf green)

i'd also be missing out on the starters, but its not worth going through that hassle either cuz i'd have to start a new game a couple of times to get them all.

You can complete the dex in Gen 1 (I think Gen 2 as well) all by yourself if you exploit simple glitches, which is nice.

You can complete the dex in Gen 1 (I think Gen 2 as well) all by yourself if you exploit simple glitches, which is nice.

im playing gen 3

Quote from: SecondClass on September 08, 2016, 06:35:03 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on September 08, 2016, 06:10:10 PM

You can complete the dex in Gen 1 (I think Gen 2 as well) all by yourself if you exploit simple glitches, which is nice.

Doesn't that go against the developer's intentions? How is that different from modding?

Modding is the act of crudely Human Centipeding third party software into a game's files, often with little regard for the game's internal logic (ie. whether it makes sense to have Twilight Sparkle running around the Capital Wasteland).

Glitches, while not intended to exist by the developers, are still technically part of the game. They are mistakes and oversights--but they're the developers' mistakes and oversights. So I'm totally okay with exploiting them.

Not to mention, I've been a Pokémon fan since before I even knew how to read. I've played all the games and beaten them all several times--especially the older ones. I think I've sort of "earned" the right to play around and experiment with the games' many imperfections.

Okay, that makes sense.