If you like fallout 3 or Skyrim you have shit taste in game

Luciana · May 22, 2015, 04:01:50 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on May 22, 2015, 03:43:35 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 22, 2015, 03:36:09 PM
I've barely even heard of the first two. I assume that's for a reason.
i bet youve never heard of charles barkley shut up and jam gaiden either, but its still a great game

oh snap, son

srsly tho, give em a try

Luciana · May 22, 2015, 04:02:39 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 22, 2015, 03:36:09 PM

I've barely even heard of the first two. I assume that's for a reason.

i was keeping them under my pillow along with my other lewd stuff

Deleted · May 22, 2015, 09:30:10 PM

I still dont understand how it is that on B.Net/Sep7agon any game that people loved ends up being the "worst game ever made" to you people after a couple years.

I swear I will come back in a few months finding dozens of threads bashing Dark Souls or The Last of Us ow whatever games you people don't hate already.

Let me make a list of "good" games we all already inexplicably hate for some reason (just off the top of my head)

-Literaly evey Halo game
-CoD 4
-Fallout
-Skyrim
-Mass Effect

Azumarill · May 22, 2015, 09:54:11 PM

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 22, 2015, 09:30:10 PM

I still dont understand how it is that on B.Net/Sep7agon any game that people loved ends up being the "worst game ever made" to you people after a couple years.

I swear I will come back in a few months finding dozens of threads bashing Dark Souls or The Last of Us ow whatever games you people don't hate already.

Let me make a list of "good" games we all already inexplicably hate for some reason (just off the top of my head)

-Literaly evey Halo game
-CoD 4
-Fallout
-Skyrim
-Mass Effect

CoD is objectively terrible, Skyrim is a game made for children, and Mass Effect is a SciFi B-movie pretending to be a series of games

The Last of Us is also hilariously overrated

We hate these things because they're bad

Verbatim · May 22, 2015, 09:56:08 PM

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 22, 2015, 09:30:10 PM

dozens of threads bashing Dark Souls

I fucking wish

that's not gonna happen though

that would be like if people starting hating TF2 all of a sudden--it ain't happening

i know what you mean though

Deleted · May 22, 2015, 10:09:41 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 22, 2015, 09:56:08 PM

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 22, 2015, 09:30:10 PM
dozens of threads bashing Dark Souls
I fucking wish

that's not gonna happen though

that would be like if people starting hating TF2 all of a sudden--it ain't happening

i know what you mean though

speaking of which but kinda off topic, I started DArk Souls 2 today and the game pissed me off. Everything was going relitively fine until the game out of nowhere magically adjusted it's difficulty and enemies I was breezing through before suddenly became all but unkillable.

For example, This one ogre/turlte looking guy who normally lust blows himself up just started walking through the explosive barrels without detonating them, and I swear every other enemy just got 20 times faster , and on top of that the game placed a friendly AI in a place that made him look like an enemy, and now that I'm forced to kill him i'm fucked.

I don't mind the silly insta-kill booby-traps around corners, since it is Dark Souls after all, but when the game pulls crap like that, then I have a problem.

Verbatim · May 22, 2015, 10:16:41 PM

kek, ur obvusly just a casul who needs 2 git gud

Deleted · May 22, 2015, 10:28:14 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 22, 2015, 10:16:41 PM

kek, ur obvusly just a casul who needs 2 git gud

I did...
but the game decided to git gud back

aREALgod · May 23, 2015, 12:37:43 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 22, 2015, 04:42:39 AM

Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
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Fallout 3 is shit but Skyrim is objectively amazing
What's Skyrim amazing at? Holding your hand the whole time while you're playing a game that has as much depth as a small puddle on the sidewalk?

Sorry you must have Fallout 3 mistaken for Skyrim
Nope, I'm sure I'm talking about the game where every guild has the exact same story setup with no choices and the game that is holding your hand the whole time you are playing it. How can you find Fallout 3 shitty but for Skyrim it's amazing when it's just as bad? They are both have the same faults.

Except you're wrong

Azumarill · May 23, 2015, 12:51:04 AM

Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 23, 2015, 12:37:43 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 22, 2015, 04:42:39 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 21, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 12:23:10 AM
Fallout 3 is shit but Skyrim is objectively amazing
What's Skyrim amazing at? Holding your hand the whole time while you're playing a game that has as much depth as a small puddle on the sidewalk?

Sorry you must have Fallout 3 mistaken for Skyrim
Nope, I'm sure I'm talking about the game where every guild has the exact same story setup with no choices and the game that is holding your hand the whole time you are playing it. How can you find Fallout 3 shitty but for Skyrim it's amazing when it's just as bad? They are both have the same faults.

Except you're wrong

id love to hear your reasons on why skyrim is good. you're usually good for a few laughs so this'll be rich

Mattie G Indahouse · May 23, 2015, 04:48:22 AM

Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 23, 2015, 12:37:43 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 22, 2015, 04:42:39 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 21, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 12:23:10 AM
Fallout 3 is shit but Skyrim is objectively amazing
What's Skyrim amazing at? Holding your hand the whole time while you're playing a game that has as much depth as a small puddle on the sidewalk?

Sorry you must have Fallout 3 mistaken for Skyrim
Nope, I'm sure I'm talking about the game where every guild has the exact same story setup with no choices and the game that is holding your hand the whole time you are playing it. How can you find Fallout 3 shitty but for Skyrim it's amazing when it's just as bad? They are both have the same faults.

Except you're wrong

How am I wrong? Skyrim being described as basically babies first RPG is right. There's hardly any depth at all to it and the game is holding your hand the whole time you are playing it. How is the game "amazing" when the base game is shit? What about it is "amazing"? What's amazing is that the series is about magical shit and you can't even make your own spells in that game.

Incan · May 23, 2015, 08:10:15 AM

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 22, 2015, 10:09:41 PM

speaking of which but kinda off topic, I started DArk Souls 2 today and the game pissed me off. Everything was going relitively fine until the game out of nowhere magically adjusted it's difficulty and enemies I was breezing through before suddenly became all but unkillable.

For example, This one ogre/turlte looking guy who normally lust blows himself up just started walking through the explosive barrels without detonating them, and I swear every other enemy just got 20 times faster , and on top of that the game placed a friendly AI in a place that made him look like an enemy, and now that I'm forced to kill him i'm fucked.

I don't mind the silly insta-kill booby-traps around corners, since it is Dark Souls after all, but when the game pulls crap like that, then I have a problem.

I don't see the issue here, the turtle knight sometimes just doesn't trigger the explosives. It's not the game magically pulling random crap at all.
The AI's never get magically faster, that just doesn't happen and it's all in your head.
And which NPC was it? What did he/she look like? Because I remember all of them being easy to spot really, it it's not hostile no need to kill it.

aREALgod · May 23, 2015, 11:14:15 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 23, 2015, 04:48:22 AM

Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 23, 2015, 12:37:43 AM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 22, 2015, 04:42:39 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 21, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 12:23:10 AM
Fallout 3 is shit but Skyrim is objectively amazing
What's Skyrim amazing at? Holding your hand the whole time while you're playing a game that has as much depth as a small puddle on the sidewalk?

Sorry you must have Fallout 3 mistaken for Skyrim
Nope, I'm sure I'm talking about the game where every guild has the exact same story setup with no choices and the game that is holding your hand the whole time you are playing it. How can you find Fallout 3 shitty but for Skyrim it's amazing when it's just as bad? They are both have the same faults.

Except you're wrong
What's amazing is that the series is about magical shit and you can't even make your own spells in that game.

LMFAO that's why you hate it so much? Because of one stupid gripe? Now I get it, you're a magefag. I hardly use magic because fucking swords and getting in people's faces and cutting off their heads is where it's at, not using some pussy magic shit. Fuck outta' here

Mattie G Indahouse · May 23, 2015, 06:27:43 PM

Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 23, 2015, 11:14:15 AM

LMFAO that's why you hate it so much? Because of one stupid gripe?

Where to begin?
Depth:

Spoiler

Even though Alduin is the main villain in the game who has the nickname "World Eater" the guy does jack shit besides destroying one town in the game. Besides the two fights you don't encounter him anymore and he doesn't pop up again. You don't come across any destruction besides that one town caused by him.

The guilds have the exact same story setup. You join, something happens and you become the leader of it. There are no choices or multiple endings for them. They are all liner as fuck.

There are no penalties in the game. Even though my character sucks at magic I can still become leader of that magic school.

The civil war quest line is pointless. It doesn't matter which side you choose nothing happens besides NPC model changes. What makes it even more pathetic is that it's not even finished. At those camps you can't kill a NPC at them because they are story based. So because of that there was going to be something that involved them.

For the fetch this quests you have no other endings for them. I get sent to find a sword and I get paid to give it to them. I don't have the option of keeping the item and forcing the person to give me the money or item.

The followers you can have might as well be all the same model. There is hardly any back story to them. In New Veges each follower has a unique back story and quest line for them. In Skyrim you see none gf that for them. It's just a very basic back story.

Even for the PC version the cities are nearly empty. You see hardly any life in the game.

Even though this is supposed to be a fantasy game the things you see in it are things you would see in real life. Lets take a look at Morrowind. The buildings and the monster/animal life in the game look very fantasy. Skyrim on the other hand has things like wolfs, deer foxes, rabbits and generic castles. Sure there are fantasy life and buildings in the game but the game still doesn't have the same fantasy theme that Morrowind has. That game did it a lot better. Hell in Lord of The Rings you see people ridding on giant wolves, pigs and in Shadow of Mordor those lions and that troll. Meanwhile in boring Skyrim you just have horses. The game is very very lazy when it comes to fantasy things.

Even though you see beast races, Orcs and Elf's in the game you don't see any kids for them. All you see are human kids.

Even though the game has a lot of voices actors you hear the same few a lot.

Hand holding:

Spoiler

All the caves and dungeons have the same theme. You walk into them and you fallow the linear path to the exit which is either a backdoor or a secret path back to the entrance.

In Morrowind you can encounter every enemy at level one. In Oblivion and Skyrim on the other hand you unlock them so there's' really no sense of progression. In Morrowind I can be at level 10 and get my ass kicked by a level 15 monster. Because of that I level up to level 16 and I beat it. In Skyrim on the other hand I can't do that because I'm unlocking enemies at levels instead of them already being there. The enemies should be a little like Pokemon where the areas are setup by progression.

In Morrowind you can find any item at level one. In Oblivion and Skyrim you unlock items at levels.

There's no penalties for your stats. Like I said above you can become head of the magic school even though you suck at magic.

Every race is the same besides some special ability. In Morrowind and Oblivion you have races that are stronger than each other or more resident to things. The males were stronger as well.

Gameplay:

Spoiler

Even though the game is about magic you can't make your own spells.

There is no unarmed tree.

Having food and drinks in the game is pointless when there is no hardcore mode like in New Vegas.

You don't have the option of starting out as a sword fighter or a mage like in the other games.

The damaged limb system that Fallout uses would work perfectly in this game but it's not used.

A fucking horse can report me for committing a crime.

Instead of being able to wear 10 rings I'm bound to only one ring. In I want to be a god with magical items I should be able to do that.

The puzzels are a children's memory game. At first they may be hard but after the 2nd time they become very very repetitive. I've played that seasons Zelda game and the puzzels in that are both fun and challenging. Skyrim's on the other hand are not fun at all.

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I hardly use magic because fucking swords and getting in people's faces and cutting off their heads is where it's at, not using some pussy magic shit. Fuck outta' here

Just because you don't use magic doesn't mean nobody else does either. Not being able to create spells does ruin the game for past players.

Azumarill · May 23, 2015, 08:15:40 PM

Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 23, 2015, 11:14:15 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 23, 2015, 04:48:22 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 23, 2015, 12:37:43 AM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 22, 2015, 04:42:39 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 21, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on May 21, 2015, 12:23:10 AM
Fallout 3 is shit but Skyrim is objectively amazing
What's Skyrim amazing at? Holding your hand the whole time while you're playing a game that has as much depth as a small puddle on the sidewalk?

Sorry you must have Fallout 3 mistaken for Skyrim
Nope, I'm sure I'm talking about the game where every guild has the exact same story setup with no choices and the game that is holding your hand the whole time you are playing it. How can you find Fallout 3 shitty but for Skyrim it's amazing when it's just as bad? They are both have the same faults.

Except you're wrong
What's amazing is that the series is about magical shit and you can't even make your own spells in that game.

LMFAO that's why you hate it so much? Because of one stupid gripe? Now I get it, you're a magefag. I hardly use magic because fucking swords and getting in people's faces and cutting off their heads is where it's at, not using some pussy magic shit. Fuck outta' here

swordplay is the least mechanically and intellectually intensive mechanic in the game. im about [ ] this close to rewarding you with a dunce cap.

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 08:36:45 PM

Oblivion was better than Skyrim, this is fact.

The moment Skyrim removed a few skill tree's from Oblivion, that was the red flag.

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 08:38:57 PM

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 22, 2015, 10:09:41 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 22, 2015, 09:56:08 PM
Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 22, 2015, 09:30:10 PM
dozens of threads bashing Dark Souls
I fucking wish

that's not gonna happen though

that would be like if people starting hating TF2 all of a sudden--it ain't happening

i know what you mean though

speaking of which but kinda off topic, I started DArk Souls 2 today and the game pissed me off. Everything was going relitively fine until the game out of nowhere magically adjusted it's difficulty and enemies I was breezing through before suddenly became all but unkillable.

For example, This one ogre/turlte looking guy who normally lust blows himself up just started walking through the explosive barrels without detonating them, and I swear every other enemy just got 20 times faster , and on top of that the game placed a friendly AI in a place that made him look like an enemy, and now that I'm forced to kill him i'm fucked.

I don't mind the silly insta-kill booby-traps around corners, since it is Dark Souls after all, but when the game pulls crap like that, then I have a problem.

From what I gather, the opening areas to the new Dark Souls 2 (SOTFS) have terrible enemy placement. It gets better though, but I still haven't bought it. I'm not gonna play $60 for the same thing with more frames and enemies jumbled up (I get there is more to it but still. $25 at best).

Dark Souls 2 hit boxes are also shit. I assume you got caught in the Ogre's (that big fat thing) grab when you thought you rolled away? But then you suddenly teleported back?

Adaptability is the worst thing they could have added in the game because you need it to have more i-frames. Where as in DS1 it was tied to weight.

Verbatim · May 23, 2015, 08:40:11 PM

oblivion and skyrim are just as shitty as each other, actually

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 08:40:55 PM

nah, morrowind is best :^)

Spoiler

that's what almost everyone says when they say both oblivion and skyrim are shit

Kiwicake · May 23, 2015, 08:44:53 PM

Morrowind would be the best if it wasn't for that horrible combat system

jeez louise that is annoying

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 08:47:12 PM

combat wasn't bad since it was dice roll stuff

it's just that the real time part of it is what ruined it

hence the swinging down at a crab 15 times before you hit happened

Batch · May 23, 2015, 08:48:08 PM

Quote from: Fruit on May 23, 2015, 08:44:53 PM

Morrowind would be the best if it wasn't for that horrible combat system

jeez louise that is annoying

>Takes out group of enemies fine
>Gets killed by a fucking crab because I suddenly to fan it off
>With a nice breeze

*sips tea*

RNG and real-time combat dont work so well sometimes.

Batch · May 23, 2015, 08:48:52 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:47:12 PM

combat wasn't bad since it was dice roll stuff

it's just that the real time part of it is what ruined it

hence the swinging down at a crab 15 times before you hit happened

O_O

no way.....

Verbatim · May 23, 2015, 08:52:06 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:40:55 PM

nah, morrowind is best :^)

Spoiler
that's what almost everyone says when they say both oblivion and skyrim are shit

IV and V are the only ones i've played, though, so

Mattie G Indahouse · May 23, 2015, 08:55:30 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:36:45 PM

Oblivion was better than Skyrim, this is fact.

The moment Skyrim removed a few skill tree's from Oblivion, that was the red flag.

Don't forget about them removing races being different from eachother like Nords being stronger than Elves. When people say Skyrim is babies first RPG they are not far from the truth. That game is a joke when it comes to depth.

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 08:55:33 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 23, 2015, 08:52:06 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:40:55 PM
nah, morrowind is best :^)

Spoiler
that's what almost everyone says when they say both oblivion and skyrim are shit
IV and V are the only ones i've played, though, so

ye same here

i said "ALMOST everyone", silly

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 08:56:29 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 23, 2015, 08:55:30 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
Oblivion was better than Skyrim, this is fact.

The moment Skyrim removed a few skill tree's from Oblivion, that was the red flag.
Don't forget about them removing races being different from eachother like Nords being stronger than Elves. When people say Skyrim is babies first RPG they are not far from the truth. That game is a joke when it comes to depth.

It's as wide as an ocean

as deep as a puddle

GOTTA LOVE SAYING THAT!!!

They really did do that though huh? Lol

Azumarill · May 23, 2015, 09:06:55 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:56:29 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 23, 2015, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
Oblivion was better than Skyrim, this is fact.

The moment Skyrim removed a few skill tree's from Oblivion, that was the red flag.
Don't forget about them removing races being different from eachother like Nords being stronger than Elves. When people say Skyrim is babies first RPG they are not far from the truth. That game is a joke when it comes to depth.
It's as wide as an ocean

as deep as a puddle

GOTTA LOVE SAYING THAT!!!

They really did do that though huh? Lol

yeah, the races are essentially all the exact same aside from the racial actives/passives (nord resistance to cold/argonian water breathing etc)

Luciana · May 23, 2015, 09:10:58 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on May 23, 2015, 09:06:55 PM

Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 23, 2015, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: Luciana on May 23, 2015, 08:36:45 PM
Oblivion was better than Skyrim, this is fact.

The moment Skyrim removed a few skill tree's from Oblivion, that was the red flag.
Don't forget about them removing races being different from eachother like Nords being stronger than Elves. When people say Skyrim is babies first RPG they are not far from the truth. That game is a joke when it comes to depth.
It's as wide as an ocean

as deep as a puddle

GOTTA LOVE SAYING THAT!!!

They really did do that though huh? Lol
yeah, the races are essentially all the exact same aside from the racial actives/passives (nord resistance to cold/argonian water breathing etc)

right right

it's been so long since I've played, but I remember now. heck, you don't even need the argonian thing because there are barely any real places to swim underwater.

The Waifu Master · May 23, 2015, 09:54:35 PM

I don't even need to be in my threads for my shite bait to work anymore.
Thanks guys.