I watched TLOU and I didn't feel like I missed anything. The story wasn't some kind of game changing meta medium feat like everyone proclaimed it to be [though it's obviously solid]. Almost every single one of the above games made me immediately want to get out and personally play them before I actually acquired them, through a trailer or a unique gameplay element or a distinctive atmosphere. I can understand why people think it's a great game, but I can't ever see myself saying "yeah, this is on the level of DX" or something.
Ladder sim lol I'm soooo clever because the game has 3 ladders in it
TLOU is definitely one of my favorite games of all time.
You mean brick throwing simulator?
It looks really boring
If you've only played 10 games in your entire life, sure, it might be in the top 9
Quote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:00:03 AMQuote from: Varg-Vikernes on January 31, 2015, 12:58:30 AMIf you've only played 10 games in your entire life, sure, it might be in the top 9If you've no intention to debate, why post?Literally no one has stayed on topic in this thread (except maybe Goji, but he hasn't responded to me).Why would I argue with someone so wrong?
Quote from: Varg-Vikernes on January 31, 2015, 12:58:30 AMIf you've only played 10 games in your entire life, sure, it might be in the top 9If you've no intention to debate, why post?Literally no one has stayed on topic in this thread (except maybe Goji, but he hasn't responded to me).
Your opinion makes me want to vomit.
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.
Quote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:37:39 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.Quote It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.
Quote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:43:20 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:37:39 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.Quote It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.I don't buy a game for good voice acting
and I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 02:03:27 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:43:20 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:37:39 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.Quote It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.I don't buy a game for good voice actingThe acting is mocap.Quoteand I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.
Quote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 02:08:53 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 02:03:27 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:43:20 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:37:39 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.Quote It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.I don't buy a game for good voice actingThe acting is mocap.Quoteand I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.When all you have to offer is average gameplay then it's not worth $60 unless you personally are really into whatever the setting or genre is. I can take a quick look on steam and see hundreds of games that likely have nothing more to offer than fairly average gameplay. My interest in them is nonexistent though because I need something more than that if I'm going to be paying for it.SpoilerI didn't even see refinement in TLOU, it was just more of the same for me personally.
Quote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 02:16:00 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 02:08:53 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 02:03:27 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:43:20 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:37:39 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.Quote It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.I don't buy a game for good voice actingThe acting is mocap.Quoteand I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.When all you have to offer is average gameplay then it's not worth $60 unless you personally are really into whatever the setting or genre is. I can take a quick look on steam and see hundreds of games that likely have nothing more to offer than fairly average gameplay. My interest in them is nonexistent though because I need something more than that if I'm going to be paying for it.SpoilerI didn't even see refinement in TLOU, it was just more of the same for me personally.Really? What about real-time crafting, or the non-traditional cover system? These have been done before but in regards to the crafting, the game creates such an intense, tension-filled environment (for the most part) that you have to essentially gamble to see if you can craft that last molotov in time.The cover system is hit or miss for me. MGSV has it too and it works better because of the game's nature and the lean feature. But nonetheless, TLOU's cover system still fits within the game's apparent need to differentiate itself from other TPS, mostly Uncharted.
KOTOR 2
Quote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 02:24:04 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 02:16:00 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 02:08:53 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 02:03:27 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:43:20 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:37:39 AMQuote from: Snake on January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AMQuote from: LC on January 31, 2015, 01:24:48 AMYour opinion makes me want to vomit.Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.Quote It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.I don't buy a game for good voice actingThe acting is mocap.Quoteand I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.When all you have to offer is average gameplay then it's not worth $60 unless you personally are really into whatever the setting or genre is. I can take a quick look on steam and see hundreds of games that likely have nothing more to offer than fairly average gameplay. My interest in them is nonexistent though because I need something more than that if I'm going to be paying for it.SpoilerI didn't even see refinement in TLOU, it was just more of the same for me personally.Really? What about real-time crafting, or the non-traditional cover system? These have been done before but in regards to the crafting, the game creates such an intense, tension-filled environment (for the most part) that you have to essentially gamble to see if you can craft that last molotov in time.The cover system is hit or miss for me. MGSV has it too and it works better because of the game's nature and the lean feature. But nonetheless, TLOU's cover system still fits within the game's apparent need to differentiate itself from other TPS, mostly Uncharted.Like I said, it just didn't really do anything for me. I can see why people might like it, I can understand that they had moments that they really enjoyed, but for me there was nothing really there.I'm currently having this same problem with Dragon Age: Origins. Everyone was saying how good it was and how I needed to play it, I'm about 30 hours in and I haven't really had it click yet.
If TLOU isn't one of the best games of all time...
