Dark Souls (Chaos Metal Complaining)

Thrasher · April 24, 2017, 11:46:12 PM

Thinking about doing a SL1 run for all three games. Not looking forward to Kalameet, Manus, Shrine of Amana, Midir.

(((Fun_Timer))) · April 24, 2017, 11:47:59 PM

Quote from: Thrasher on April 24, 2017, 11:46:12 PM

Midir.

rip sanity

Ásgeirr · April 25, 2017, 12:01:53 AM

Power stanced bone fists tho. Bring them back Miyazaki.

Thrasher · April 25, 2017, 12:30:09 AM

Well I started the run. Pray for me. Asylum Demon was easy.

Edit: Beat the gargoyles and Capra first try.

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Deleted · April 25, 2017, 12:36:12 AM

Holy Shit. I'm in the gutter right now. How the hell do you people live like this? These fucking dogs here have literaly no hiboxes and Havel levels of poise.

Big Boss · April 25, 2017, 11:45:27 AM

Got Midir on my first try in NG++. GG.

Ásgeirr · April 25, 2017, 12:57:56 PM

20/15 vit/end going through ringed DLC. F U N T I M E S

Big Boss · April 25, 2017, 03:18:12 PM

GG WP

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Ásgeirr · April 25, 2017, 06:45:31 PM

Thrasher · April 26, 2017, 06:44:14 AM

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My hands were shaking the whole time.

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Thrasher · April 28, 2017, 12:43:39 AM

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Which is worse in your opinion: Forlorn or Maldron?

Big Boss · April 28, 2017, 03:58:55 AM

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Which is worse in your opinion: Forlorn or Maldron?

Maldron is the obvious choice

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Which is worse in your opinion: Forlorn or Maldron?

Maldron for certain, but Forlorn is just a massive irritation, epecialy when playing as a mage. Forlorn is like the Warden Eternal of this game along with the damn Pursuer; Massive dammage sponges that just show up every 5 secconds in the game.
Even on this build I'm doing, even though he's easy to the point of being a non-threat, it's still annoying to fight over and over.

Ásgeirr · April 28, 2017, 12:42:46 PM

Maldron gave me PTSD

I would rather slog through Iron Keep without a bow than fight Maldron

Deleted · April 28, 2017, 01:14:58 PM

But legitimately. I'm playing as a melee buld for the first time, and I dont get how anyone thinks this is any harder or more skilled than playing mage. I literaly just stunlock everything to death with no effort. The only thing that's even a threat is the few enemies that do dark damage. If anything my melee playthrough has been easier than any other that iv'e done. High Poise and the stone ring break the PvE of this game essentially.

Turkey · April 28, 2017, 01:30:29 PM

Quote from: Titanfall 2 Was a Mistake on April 28, 2017, 01:14:58 PM

But legitimately. I'm playing as a melee buld for the first time, and I dont get how anyone thinks this is any harder or more skilled than playing mage. I literaly just stunlock everything to death with no effort. The only thing that's even a threat is the few enemies that do dark damage. If anything my melee playthrough has been easier than any other that iv'e done. High Poise and the stone ring break the PvE of this game essentially.

Are you starting over from SL1, or did you just respec? Because I'd argue that melee builds are much more difficult at lower levels when you can't absorb tons of damage and quickly kill enemies. At low levels, pyro and magic allow you to kite and kill at range, which is drastically easier.

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But legitimately. I'm playing as a melee buld for the first time, and I dont get how anyone thinks this is any harder or more skilled than playing mage. I literaly just stunlock everything to death with no effort. The only thing that's even a threat is the few enemies that do dark damage. If anything my melee playthrough has been easier than any other that iv'e done. High Poise and the stone ring break the PvE of this game essentially.
Are you starting over from SL1, or did you just respec? Because I'd argue that melee builds are much more difficult at lower levels when you can't absorb tons of damage and quickly kill enemies. At low levels, pyro and magic allow you to kite and kill at range, which is drastically easier.

I started from the begining. Bandit class.
Ive just killed Velstadt and got the King's ring.

I'm at SL 126
21 Vig
20 Vit
30 End
40 Str
40 Dex
17 Adpt
1 Int
8 Faith
2 Atn

Armor:
Royal Swordman's helm
Dark Armor
Havel's Gaunlets
Havel's Leggings

Chloranthy ring+1
Knight's Ring+1
Second Dragon Ring
Stone Ring

Weapons:
Raw Broken Stunlock Spear +4
*Blossom Kite shield (Tower shield during some bosses.)
*Avelyn +10

Turkey · April 28, 2017, 01:52:16 PM

Quote from: Titanfall 2 Was a Mistake on April 28, 2017, 01:46:49 PM

So you're rolling an overleveled, poised-as-fuck quality build with broken weapons and you're complaining that it's easy...? Part of Dark Souls' appeal is the option to have self-imposed difficulty, or make the game super easy by using easy builds. Regardless, I wouldn't expect any part of a Souls game to be difficult for experienced players. I personally enjoy pyro the most because of its mix of short range magic and melee.

Luciana · April 28, 2017, 02:10:07 PM

Melee is usually regarded as harder because you actually have to roll/block things, where as mage you take things out from a distance. Magic/hexes in DS2 are also overpowered as hell.

And as Turcuck said, you're doing what you said you were doing, yeah. Dark Souls 2 is also regarded as the easiest one, so try 1 or 3 for more of a challenge with it.

Deleted · April 28, 2017, 03:16:08 PM

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overleveled

This is the level I'm at naturally just from playing through the game.

Thrasher · April 29, 2017, 04:11:13 AM

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This fight almost gave me a heart attack.

Ásgeirr · April 29, 2017, 06:56:29 AM

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This fight almost gave me a heart attack.

4 Kings are such fucking horse shit but here you are at SL1 beating them.

This is some gitting gud stuff right here.

Big Boss · April 29, 2017, 11:55:44 AM

Quote from: Luciana on April 28, 2017, 02:10:07 PM

Melee is usually regarded as harder because you actually have to roll/block things, where as mage you take things out from a distance.

I can vouch for that. I play with a 2-handed Zwei/Claymore 90% of the time and you really do have to learn to roll the fuck through everything. Mage is easy mode.

Deleted · April 29, 2017, 07:08:23 PM

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Quote from: Luciana on April 28, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Melee is usually regarded as harder because you actually have to roll/block things, where as mage you take things out from a distance.

I can vouch for that. I play with a 2-handed Zwei/Claymore 90% of the time and you really do have to learn to roll the fuck through everything.

Do you actually believe that you avoid CQC at all as a mage? I swear I'm somehow buying complete completely separate games from literaly everyone else on this site that just happen to have the same exact name.

Turkey · April 29, 2017, 07:22:36 PM

Quote from: Titanfall 2 Was a Mistake on April 29, 2017, 07:08:23 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on April 29, 2017, 11:55:44 AM
Quote from: Luciana on April 28, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Melee is usually regarded as harder because you actually have to roll/block things, where as mage you take things out from a distance.

I can vouch for that. I play with a 2-handed Zwei/Claymore 90% of the time and you really do have to learn to roll the fuck through everything.

Do you actually believe that you avoid CQC at all as a mage? I swear I'm somehow buying complete completely separate games from literaly everyone else on this site that just happen to have the same exact name.

Any damage that can be done to an enemy without being hazardously close to it is an advantage melee players don't have. Of course magic users sometimes get in close, the difference is that a quality or strength build will never get that advantage. It's an intrinsically easier playstyle, but that doesn't mean it's not difficult or respectable.

Thrasher · April 29, 2017, 07:22:39 PM

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This fight almost gave me a heart attack.
4 Kings are such fucking horse shit but here you are at SL1 beating them.

This is some gitting gud stuff right here.

Thanks. I think the tiny health boost from the mother's mask saved me at 1:11.

Deleted · April 29, 2017, 07:47:53 PM

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Quote from: Big Boss on April 29, 2017, 11:55:44 AM
Quote from: Luciana on April 28, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Melee is usually regarded as harder because you actually have to roll/block things, where as mage you take things out from a distance.

I can vouch for that. I play with a 2-handed Zwei/Claymore 90% of the time and you really do have to learn to roll the fuck through everything.

Do you actually believe that you avoid CQC at all as a mage? I swear I'm somehow buying complete completely separate games from literaly everyone else on this site that just happen to have the same exact name.

the difference is that a quality or strength build will never get that advantage. \

And Before you say "You need money to buy Ammo"

and lets not even get into these

Turkey · April 29, 2017, 07:54:31 PM

Quote from: Titanfall 2 Was a Mistake on April 29, 2017, 07:47:53 PM

Quote from: Sovereign Citizen Kane on April 29, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
Quote from: Titanfall 2 Was a Mistake on April 29, 2017, 07:08:23 PM
Quote from: Big Boss on April 29, 2017, 11:55:44 AM
Quote from: Luciana on April 28, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Melee is usually regarded as harder because you actually have to roll/block things, where as mage you take things out from a distance.

I can vouch for that. I play with a 2-handed Zwei/Claymore 90% of the time and you really do have to learn to roll the fuck through everything.

Do you actually believe that you avoid CQC at all as a mage? I swear I'm somehow buying complete completely separate games from literaly everyone else on this site that just happen to have the same exact name.

the difference is that a quality or strength build will never get that advantage. \

And Before you say "You need money to buy Ammo"

and lets not even get into these

Bows and throwing knives are trash, though. I even included them in my post but took them out because they're not worth mentioning, and this evades the point. Magic users' primary means of damage is safe; melee users' is not.

Deleted · April 29, 2017, 08:21:29 PM

Quote from: Sovereign Citizen Kane on April 29, 2017, 07:54:31 PM

Bows and throwing knives are trash, though.

Dont sleep on the composite bow.The human Cactus meta will punish you for your disbelief. The other bows are Good for a good portion stuff other than bosses, granted that you actualy play them like they are bows.

And don't get me started on throwing knives. Everyone in the arena toss them like confetti 24/7 and the fact that they deal more damage than Soul Arrows and can be rolled out of is some injustice.