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Can somebody confirm whether all grabs are techable or not

I don’t wanna play Sheik if her down throw is even more pointless than PAL melee or TU 4
sheik's down throw wouldn't be directly affected by this change, though

it's only making it so when two characters try to grab each other, it cancels out and resets the neutral, just like in traditional fighters

unless you're getting at something else


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Can somebody confirm whether all grabs are techable or not

I don’t wanna play Sheik if her down throw is even more pointless than PAL melee or TU 4
sheik's down throw wouldn't be directly affected by this change, though

it's only making it so when two characters try to grab each other, it cancels out and resets the neutral, just like in traditional fighters

unless you're getting at something else
the way it was explained to me was when you get thrown onto the ground in a way that bounces into the air ie: sheiks Dthrow, you now have the option to tech it and remove the chance to follow up.


 
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the way it was explained to me was when you get thrown onto the ground in a way that bounces into the air ie: sheiks Dthrow, you now have the option to tech it and remove the chance to follow up.
nah, this is what it is

mario and bayo tried to grab each other at the same time, so it cancels

it's the change i'm probably the most excited about, because i always felt that grabs were a broken mechanic in smash


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Oh sweet. I was worried for a moment


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ridley still looks bizarre to me

maybe it's just him standing upright, or they made it him too small


 
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ridley still looks bizarre to me

maybe it's just him standing upright, or they made it him too small
definitely

i feel how godzilla fans must have felt when the 1998 american version was made


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From what I’ve seen it’s really jarring looking at his design vs. the aesthetic of the rest of the game.


 
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From what I’ve seen it’s really jarring looking at his design vs. the aesthetic of the rest of the game.
https://youtu.be/xPw-w3ShDww
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one of the funnier smash related videos i've seen in my life


 
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"Falco is a big Elon Musk fan who owns bit coins"
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- Daisy is a first-wave "we can do it" rosie the riveter type feminist; probably helped build bombs during WW2

- the new zelda doesn't care much about politics and is more of a diana of wales type figure

- pichu is just as much of an environmentalist as pikachu, but with more wide-eyed idealism

- lucina is a centrist democrat who is primarily concerned with social issues and not much else, probably loves starbucks

- young link is a cynical futurist who watches peter joseph documentaries like zeitgeist

- mewtwo is a militant green ideologue who cares for animals but is otherwise above politics

- roy is just an opinionated contrarian asshole who always tries to go against the grain no matter what

- whereas pit is the new york times op-ed columnist, dark pit writes for the washington post

- villager is a conservative christian who doesn't like "the gays" but keeps it to himself, got it from his parents, also probably in the closet

- mega man is a radical ecolib who really fucking hates capitalism, basically the polar opposite of liberty prime from fallout 3

- wii fit trainer is too nice for you to even ask her politics, let alone argue with

- little mac obviously dropped out of high school to become a pugilist, but probably still idolizes theodore roosevelt who was among the last presidents he learned about

- greninja is a feudalist historian who's really obsessed with the edo period for some reason

- palutena is one of those radical centrists who think they're above it all when they're actually just trying to avoid confrontation

- pac-man is a boomer libertarian and ronald reagan supporter who thinks he was the greatest president of all time

- robin is an uppity college liberal who is concerned about microaggressions

- shulk voted for trump because he thought it would be funny

- the duck hunt dog posts half-baked anti-vegan memes on facebook, whereas the duck makes fun of him for doing so on reddit

- ryu doesn't care as long as you're not a dictator

- cloud is an apathetic absurdist who doesn't really claim to know what anything is, his favorite book is the stranger by albert camus

- i don't know shit about corrin, but he comes off to me like a stuffy aristocrat who thinks all corporate taxes should be abolished

- bayonetta is a sex-positive conservative anti-feminist who makes political rants on youtube with makeup tutorials on the side

- inkling tried to watch the presidential debates to impress her parents but she got bored and fell asleep

- ridley is a nihilist/anarchist
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Holy fucking shit, someone just revealed that Waluigi is in the game AAAAAAAAAAA 😱😱😱


 
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Wait, does Snake have an echo fighter/s, his emblem changed to something that fits all of Metal Gear, than just Naked Snake 🙊🙉🙈


 
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So, that one leaker (who has been pretty accurate lately) has just leaked that there's gonna be 6 more new characters. I wouldn't get too excited about that, but this dude has a pretty strong track record.

If he's right, any predictions? One of the fun things about having a completed 68 character roster is that it really narrows things down.

I predict:

1. Simon Belmont, who has been my biggest request since Brawl
2. Decidueye, who seems all but inevitable to me
3. Spring Man and/or Ribbon Girl for some Arms representation
4. A Metal Gear echo fighter, pretty much because of what Cat just said
5. King K. Rool who is a piece of shit character who I don't want, but it seems likely-ish
6. Geno—again, don't want him, but he's been requested for years, so it's about time

These aren't characters I necessarily want, but they're the ones I'm expecting the most.


 
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So, that one leaker (who has been pretty accurate lately) has just leaked that there's gonna be 6 more new characters. I wouldn't get too excited about that, but this dude has a pretty strong track record.

If he's right, any predictions? One of the fun things about having a completed 68 character roster is that it really narrows things down.

I predict:

1. Simon Belmont, who has been my biggest request since Brawl
2. Decidueye, who seems all but inevitable to me
3. Spring Man and/or Ribbon Girl for some Arms representation
4. A Metal Gear echo fighter, pretty much because of what Cat just said
5. King K. Rool who is a piece of shit character who I don't want, but it seems likely-ish
6. Geno—again, don't want him, but he's been requested for years, so it's about time

These aren't characters I necessarily want, but they're the ones I'm expecting the most.


 
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So, that one leaker (who has been pretty accurate lately) has just leaked that there's gonna be 6 more new characters. I wouldn't get too excited about that, but this dude has a pretty strong track record.

If he's right, any predictions? One of the fun things about having a completed 68 character roster is that it really narrows things down.

I predict:

1. Simon Belmont, who has been my biggest request since Brawl
2. Decidueye, who seems all but inevitable to me
3. Spring Man and/or Ribbon Girl for some Arms representation
4. A Metal Gear echo fighter, pretty much because of what Cat just said
5. King K. Rool who is a piece of shit character who I don't want, but it seems likely-ish
6. Geno—again, don't want him, but he's been requested for years, so it's about time

These aren't characters I necessarily want, but they're the ones I'm expecting the most.

never said arms wasn't dumb tbh

i still think it's likely

and citing ivy as a reason to doubt decidueye doesn't work when we have squirtle + greninja
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Personally I'll say

1. Simon Belmont - the leak so far bodes well in terms of being correct so I'll run with it.
2. K. Rool - Fan popularity, he's likely.
3. Decidueye - However this could also either be Mimikyu or Sceptile
4. BotW Champion or Skull Kid - if they go the BotW Champion route then I'd imagine they go with Revali which takes Decidueye out of consideration. Skull Kid is a fan favorite.
5. Rex - Xenoblade 2 is bound to get representation, it's just gonna happen imo.
6. Metal Gear Echo Fighter - Same reasons stated about this prior.


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So, that one leaker (who has been pretty accurate lately) has just leaked that there's gonna be 6 more new characters. I wouldn't get too excited about that, but this dude has a pretty strong track record.

If he's right, any predictions? One of the fun things about having a completed 68 character roster is that it really narrows things down.

I predict:

1. Simon Belmont, who has been my biggest request since Brawl
2. Decidueye, who seems all but inevitable to me
3. Spring Man and/or Ribbon Girl for some Arms representation
4. A Metal Gear echo fighter, pretty much because of what Cat just said
5. King K. Rool who is a piece of shit character who I don't want, but it seems likely-ish
6. Geno—again, don't want him, but he's been requested for years, so it's about time

These aren't characters I necessarily want, but they're the ones I'm expecting the most.
never said arms wasn't dumb tbh

i still think it's likely

and citing ivy as a reason to doubt decidueye doesn't work when we have squirtle + greninja
I didn't expect this screenshot to be introduced as an actual point so I was being jokingly obtuse. More elaborate thoughts, as requested by TB:

1. All for Belmont. Vergeben probably had some legit sources on the original leak but it's not clear whether Ridley and Belmont were from the same one. Konami's involved with Snake (I originally had Snake penned in as "if Belmont gets in" before everyone came back and the reverse is applicable here) so I expect Simon.

2. I doubt Decidueye by this point, since arguments for him are essentially:
a) Relevance, which becomes less of a point as time goes on and we move further and further away from S/M. As it stands the release of those games lines up fairly clean with Ultimate's development, so sure.
b) Originality. Decidueye's archer style could bring something new to the table. I've imagined him with mobility similar to Wrastor from Rivals of Aether if you've played it.
c) "Representation Satisfaction", which I know isn't a real thing but the cases for recent grass starters have been centered around this "type trio" mentality where there must be a fire, water and grass starter represented. This doesn't make sense and is further invalidated by the existence of Squirtle separate from Greninja. My point was less about this and more saying that Ivysaur's taken some pieces that could've gone towards Decidueye's moveset in my mind. This doesn't really hurt Decidueye's chances as much as its originality I guess.

Overall I'd say that Decidueye is the most likely new Pokemon. However, Pokemon's gotten two (technically three if you consider Ivysaur and Squirtle as separate entities, which they're much closer to without stamina mechanics) characters added. I've always brought up that it's one of the biggest media franchises in the world so it makes sense, but I feel like Mimikyu would more solidly rep gen 7. Mimikyu's popularity and ghostly disguise-oriented theme could create a unique playstyle in Smash. It's really either/or if we get one.

3. ARMS character: We can agree that arms sucks and doesn't deserve a character. You said that it'll probably get one (similar to how Inklings did) but I'd suggest that they'll pass over this title for Ultimate. Inklings didn't make it for the Smash 4 DLC (even when they were perfectly relevant) and ARMS has proven to be a much more mixed title critically and in sales numbers. Hoping I'm right on this one, since the amount of lag Spring Man would have on his moves would make him ridiculous to play and fight.

4. Snake has some Big Boss elements in his design but I'd love this.

5. Taste's pretty subjective, and K Rool's always been a divisive character design-wise. I like him as a villain and wish appeared more often personally, but there's a lot more to him than status. Over DK games, he's gotten standard boxing moves, a cannon, a helipack, a variety of goons and even a swing from his Mario Baseball appearance. We don't have too many heavyweights outside of the bait and punish-style characters so I think he'd be a good inclusion.

6. Geno feels to me like one of those things that will never happen. I could be wrong since he was also a mii costume, but his role in Mario RPG is so much less important than most other potential Mario characters. Old Paper Mario and M&L are arguably better RPGs as well. Waluigi got passed up for this game, but we already got Daisy for Mario and I doubt Geno severely.

I'll add some of my own.
- Chorus Kids: They're a meme but they were in the mostly-correct Gematsu leak for Smash 4, and Rhythm Heaven character data was discovered in the game after. Rhythm Heaven has very few Smash references so this would be nice.
- Isaac: Another highly requested character in a game of fanservice. Never played Golden Sun so I don't know too much.
- Animal Crossing Echo: Isabelle or maybe KK Slider. Just a direct Villager clone since they've taken pretty much everything they can.
- Chibi Robo: Seems like a Sakurai pick to me.
- Rayman: Heavily requested third party that's close to Nintendo, or:
- Banjo and Kazooie: Probably an impossible pick but Rare was big for the N64 and Phil Spencer's been open to the idea. The ball seems to be in Nintendo's court.

Predicting about 3 or 4 more newcomers (from the ones I agreed to or listed) in the base game and a handful more for DLC. I'm really optimistic about this game since it seems a lot more competitive than Smash 4.
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