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Did Sakurai just fire the whole balancing team? Why do this? Why does Sakurai even put projectile characters in his games if he clearly doesn't want anyone to use them?


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Wow thus update fucking sucks


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It makes sense that it's relatively minor changes. They're playing it safe since they didn't do that in Smash 4 and ended up messing with the game in the long run.


 
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Wow thus update fucking sucks

Is it possible for you to just relax but at all? Everytime you post it's like the end of the world.


 
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Wow thus update fucking sucks
we have a genuinely good stage builder, the ability to share and post them, and the ability to actually play them online with our friends in arenas

joker is cool as hell and so is his stage (not that i've played as him because i don't buy DLC anymore, but my friends have and he's pretty fun to fight)

looking pretty good to me in spite of the boring patch notes and mii costume microtransaction cancer
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It makes sense that it's relatively minor changes. They're playing it safe since they didn't do that in Smash 4 and ended up messing with the game in the long run.
are you still playing greninja


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Okay that buff to Sheik’s Fair was needed god dang


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Nice map, Verb.


 
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jefferlope is a self-identified "filthy casual" and means no BM for taunting you while at a stock deficit


 
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Nice map, Verb.
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we have a genuinely good stage builder, the ability to share and post them

This is actually the worst part of the update
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Any of y’all have that one friend that is a really obnoxious winner? Like, kinda competent at the game and whenever they win they always have to make a huge display of ‘well you tried and it was a really close game, but tough result, better luck next time’ in the most condescending manner possible?

Like chill tf out homie we’re 23, I know how to say ggs after losing a friendly


 
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Any of y’all have that one friend that is a really obnoxious winner? Like, kinda competent at the game and whenever they win they always have to make a huge display of ‘well you tried and it was a really close game, but tough result, better luck next time’ in the most condescending manner possible?

Like chill tf out homie we’re 23, I know how to say ggs after losing a friendly

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So I thought it might be fun to post some of these made here:



  • I tried to make this list with 90% likeliness in mind, and 10% personal bias in mind (or how much I want them). Therefore, if a character is ranked high, that doesn't necessarily mean that I want them, and if a character is ranked low, that doesn't necessarily mean that I don't want them.
  • That being said, I'm perfectly satisfied with the game's roster as it is. There are no more characters who I think "need" to be in Smash at this point, not counting the ones that have already been deconfirmed.
  • On this tier list, I personally added the "All but confirmed" tier. They were not present on the original graph, but I added them in because there are some characters that, in my opinion, aren't even on the table of discussion when it comes to DLC speculation. "All but confirmed" refers exclusively to Erdrick, because there's a copious wealth of evidence to support his inclusion, and I'm personally on board with the idea, even if it's a boring and relatively unhype choice for anyone who doesn't give a fuck about Dragon Quest.
  • I have also added the "Soft Deconfirmed" tier. This includes any character who has already been represented with a Spirit (such as Geno), Mii Costume (such as Tails), background stage element (such as Pauline—not listed here, but she would be an example), or (in the specific case of Heihachi Mishima) referenced in Pac-Man's Namco Roulette taunt. I consider these representations to "softly" deconfirm characters, because I don't know if they completely shut out their chances, but I find myself personally dissuaded from putting any money on them. Technically, there have been instances where Mii Costume characters have become playable later on, such as King K. Rool, but that was between Smash 4 and Ultimate. Any instance of a new-in-Ultimate Mii Costume character becoming playable later have yet to be seen. On the other hand, Ultimate is still missing plenty of character costumes from Smash 4, such as the Monster Hunter outfits, which could raise their odds of becoming playable ever so slightly.
  • This particular tier list contained no characters who belonged in a "Hard Deconfirmed" tier, in my opinion, so there was no need to make one, but I'll explain what I think that means anyway. A "hard" deconfirmation (by my measurement) would involve any character that can already be found in an Assist Trophy (such as Waluigi), Poké Ball (such as Mimikyu), or as a boss (such as Marx). These characters, in my opinion, have absolutely no chance to be playable whether anyone likes it or not. While it's true that some Assist Trophies have become characters later on, like Little Mac and Isabelle, that was between two different games. An Assist Trophy has never been simultaneously playable in the same game, and I really do think of it as a "kiss of death" for your character's chances.
  • Each character is meticulously ordered within each tier. Lloyd Irving is more likely than Travis Touchdown, who is more likely than Klonoa, etc. For the "Soft Deconfirmed" characters, I ordered them in terms of how much I personally would like to see them in Smash. So, even though I think Geno, Raiden, and Dixie Kong have a very low chance to be in the game, I still think it would be cool if they somehow got in. Conversely, the characters placed furthest to the right are characters I want nothing to do with, including Kamek, Fawful, and the Chorus Kids. Not only are these characters deconfirmed, in my opinion, they're also not even good ideas to begin with.
  • Currently, I'm of the opinion that the DLC characters are going to be comprised entirely of third party "guest" fighters. I place first party characters at an inherent disadvantage.
  • S-tier is empty because I don't want to give the impression that I think any one character is guaranteed to be in the game unless we have substantial evidence for it, and because I don't particularly want or care for any of the characters that I placed in A-tier. Banjo (& Kazooie) is the one character I absolutely expect to be in the game, but I could still see it not happening for one reason or another. He definitely has the highest chance, though.
  • The remaining A-tiers—Sora, Dante, Rayman, and Shantae—all have a decent shot, in my opinion. I have no personal attachments to any of their respective franchises; they just seem like good candidates to me, and good "fits" for Smash in general.
  • B-tier comprises characters that I think would be good ideas, but are FAR less likely than those found in A-tier. Klonoa is the only character who I have personal attachments with here, and if I'm honest, I probably should've placed him in C-tier. He's basically not happening and represents the 10% of personal bias that I had mentioned earlier. I think he would be a cool pick as someone who loves his games, and he wouldn't even necessarily be that out of place. The main issues are that he's not relevant, and he's not far enough in the past to be considered a "classic" gaming icon in the way that Ryu Hayabusa is.
  • Speaking of, Ryu would be a great choice, but the problem is that we already have a character named "Ryu" in the game, which makes things kind of awkward. It's true that we have two Roys, if you count the alternates of Bowser Jr, but I think that's a very unique case. It would be different if Roy Koopa was the base character, but he's not. So that's Ryu Hayabusa's main problem.
  • Lloyd Irving and the Monster Hunter both have the benefit of not having their Smash 4 costumes in the game as of yet, which boosts their chances ever so slightly in my opinion. They're also both from relatively big franchises, and are both decently popular. I can't see them generating too much in the way of hype, though. We already have so many sword-wielding characters as it is.
  • C-tier involves characters that I straight-up do not see happening, personally, but I can concede that they have a tiny chance. The problem with Crash and Spyro is that, in my opinion, you cannot have a crossover fighting game without having them BOTH in the game. You can't just have one or the other, but to have two DLC slots spent on these two guys? I just don't see it happening. Plus, it would just be kinda lame. I think these characters belong in the past.
  • Black Mage and Crono are both potential Square reps if Erdrick ends up not being the one. I don't have my money on them, but they wouldn't be bad choices or anything.
  • Viewtiful Joe, Amaterasu, and Phoenix Wright have all been playable in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, so the notion of them coming to another fighting game doesn't seem completely out of the question to me. But I'm not expecting them.
  • Rash from Battletoads would just be kinda cool, in my opinion. Otherwise, he has no chance.
  • Quote from Cave Story wouldn't be that cool or hype, as far as I'm concerned, but in terms of representing indie games, I guess you couldn't go wrong with representing the first-ever breakthrough indie success, and arguably the most important indie game ever made.
  • Euden from Dragalia Lost would be boring, stupid, and unhype, but I don't think his chances are below 1%.
  • A Pokémon from Generation VIII would not be remarkably exciting from my point of view, and it doesn't seem all that likely to me anyway. It depends on a lot of factors we know nothing about, and I was on the fence about even placing this one.
  • D-tier is reserved for characters who have less than a 1% chance of making it, in my opinion, as well as for all the really fucking dumb ideas. Occasionally, I'll throw in a character who I just really, really, really don't want, like Bandana Waddle Dee, because that would just be so fucking lame, or Edelgard from the as-of-yet unreleased Fire Emblem: Three Houses, simply because we have too many Fire Emblem shits. Their chances are higher than 1%, but I just don't care because of how stupid they would be.
  • I used to have Porky a little higher up, mainly because 1.) he doesn't have a Spirit, and 2.) he's not a boss, despite being a boss in Brawl. However, based on the fact that he's still a Nintendo first party, I had to knock him down a bit. He's still the highest in the tier, though, for those two reasons. It just seems suspect to me that he has no presence in the game whatsoever, especially since the 30th anniversary of the Mother franchise is coming up this year. It seems plausible to me that if he were to become a character, they could also announce a Mother collection, which would be the perfect excuse to finally localize Mother 3. I'm not holding my breath, but that would be fucking dope, and I think the pieces all fit together kinda nicely.
  • I don't think anyone else in D-tier is worth entertaining the thought of, really.

Might post more of these.



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Jesus this game actualy becomes unplayable if your GSP goes low enough.
Ive been bad enough with snake that my GSP went down to the 10,000s and now its nothing but lagswitchers, and Illegal maps with items every match,

EDIT: In fact the Matchmaking seems a hell of alot worse since thew update in general. Even on Samus who is at 4Miltion GSP I'm playing most of my matches as 2 stocks with Smash Ball on.
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It makes sense that it's relatively minor changes. They're playing it safe since they didn't do that in Smash 4 and ended up messing with the game in the long run.
are you still playing greninja
He's my favorite Pokemon, so yeah.

Though I've been playing Ike alongside him, I still don't know what MUs I want to use him for.
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Haven't won with Fox yet, really confused how that happened.


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Leften is honestly such an absolute dipshit to the point he makes someone like SonicFox look good in comparison.

EDITL LOL watch long enough and it shows he fucking ragequit the last match before he made the video
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how does he not like the stage builder wtf

i get that it's 95% memes for most people but mechanically it's pretty objectively the best one we've had
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how does he not like the stage builder wtf

i get that it's 95% memes for most people but mechanically it's pretty objectively the best one we've had

He probably got triggered after he played against a Puff-main on that one map you had,


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I just lost ten fuckingh matches in a row to garbage players because every single time My A button turned completely the fuck off on the last stocks.

Why the fuck did I buy this game digital?


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
I just lost ten fuckingh matches in a row to garbage players because every single time My A button turned completely the fuck off on the last stocks.

Why the fuck did I buy this game digital?
Take a break from Smash and come play Halo with me and Boomdeyadah


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I just lost ten fuckingh matches in a row to garbage players because every single time My A button turned completely the fuck off on the last stocks.

Why the fuck did I buy this game digital?
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I just lost ten fuckingh matches in a row to garbage players because every single time My A button turned completely the fuck off on the last stocks.

Why the fuck did I buy this game digital?
Take a break from Smash and come play Halo with me and Boomdeyadah

I will after classes end next week


 
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