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The World of Light fight where you take on Ganondorf with the sword in the stamina match has taught me more about playing Smash than everything else in this game. WoL is still pretty disappointing (bad difficulty balance) but that was great.

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The World of Light fight where you take on Ganondorf with the sword in the stamina match has taught me more about playing Smash than everything else in this game. WoL is still pretty disappointing (bad difficulty balance) but that was great.
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The World of Light fight where you take on Ganondorf with the sword in the stamina match has taught me more about playing Smash than everything else in this game. WoL is still pretty disappointing (bad difficulty balance) but that was great.

How'd you like Pauline?
Not sure if I played her yet. This world is huge and I don't play the game often. Just went with the Marth route and unlocked a few different characters so far. The WoL is a cool concept but it could've been so much better. It feels like 90% of the fights are so easy that you don't even have to change your party even when the game prompts you to while most of the other 10% is just stupidly difficult that cheesing or grinding your sprite and skills to max level is the only way you'll stand a chance.

And the problem isn't that it's difficult in a fun or challenging way. Some fights are well done like the high level Ganondorf one where he has more health, more defense and does more damage with melee weapons - one of which he spawns with. It forces you to get your dodging, blocking, countering and spacing on point and outplay him in every way. This is fun to do even if it takes you a dozen tries. But most of the high level fights are just dumb and a chore. Last night I did one where you go up against a team of 3 high level Inklings who all spawn with a variety of blasters, have the trait that they do more damage with ranged projectiles, and have hostile trophy characters spawn in to support them every 15 seconds or so (it's the trophy where some guy sets up a mortar that fires like 10 homing rockets that track you). There's so many projectiles at all times that it's impossible to block or dodge them and they all do over 10% of damage for every hit. It's an impossible challenge no matter how good you are unless you cheese it or grind for days to get the best possible supports at level 100. I beat it by just camping out at the very bottom corner of the map in the hopes of hitting a good charged B attack and throwing one of them off the screen. Took me a good number of tries but managed to get lucky and clear it after a while.


 
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The World of Light fight where you take on Ganondorf with the sword in the stamina match has taught me more about playing Smash than everything else in this game. WoL is still pretty disappointing (bad difficulty balance) but that was great.
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Do I need the paid membership for that?
unfortunately

we're also on separate continents so it would probably lag like shit anyway


 
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Last night I did one where you go up against a team of 3 high level Inklings who all spawn with a variety of blasters, have the trait that they do more damage with ranged projectiles, and have hostile trophy characters spawn in to support them every 15 seconds or so (it's the trophy where some guy sets up a mortar that fires like 10 homing rockets that track you). There's so many projectiles at all times that it's impossible to block or dodge them and they all do over 10% of damage for every hit. It's an impossible challenge no matter how good you are unless you cheese it or grind for days to get the best possible supports at level 100. I beat it by just camping out at the very bottom corner of the map in the hopes of hitting a good charged B attack and throwing one of them off the screen. Took me a good number of tries but managed to get lucky and clear it after a while.
sounds pretty dumb, but using a spirit that equips you with an item called a franklin badge (which reflects all projectiles shot at you as a passive buff), any spirit that grants temporary invincibility, etc. probably would've been a more rewarding and fun way to beat it rather than what you described

most of the tough spirit battles have a powerful yet easily exploitable gimmick, with one big gaping obvious weakness which may require a little creativity and lots of knowledge of how all the game's items work

it's understandable that you'd prefer the ones that simply require gameplay finesse though
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Links up smashes are so good.


 
 
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most of the tough spirit battles have a powerful yet easily exploitable gimmick, with one big gaping obvious weakness which may require a little creativity and lots of knowledge of how all the game's items work

it's understandable that you'd prefer the ones that simply require gameplay finesse though
Yeah, gimmicky things have never been my thing. Dark Souls 3 has an in my opinion really cool boss that you're unfortunately intended to beat with the special attack of a certain weapon that deals chunks of damage and brings him to his knees for easy damage. It's the way you're intended to beat him and even though it's possible to do it without the weapon (it's Dark Souls after all), it's a massive pain and long g rind as you do next to no damage. I much prefer the gameplay finesse as you call it. Another example of this in Smash is the Dr Wily fight. You spawn in with 100hp (stamina battle) and have to beat 8 metal megaman with some boosts in a row (coming at you in pairs of 2) before you fight Dr Mario as the final one. They're very difficult to stun or interrupt and just spam their cannon which fills the stage with projectiles and saps away at your health, making this a basically impossible fight without immense cheesing. It seems that the current go-to strat to clear the fight is playing Lucas and just spamming the same move which heals you, or spamming something like Falcon kick (which sends you flying through their pellets) with high level anti-metal and anti-projectile spirits active. Nothing fun about that when you could put together so many more interesting battles, imo.


 
 
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I'm going to drop Mewtwo. Way too floaty for me and I don't like that he's got two specials that are essentially stuns. Simon's been fun so I might give him a shot instead. That or Link.


 
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I'm going to drop Mewtwo. Way too floaty for me and I don't like that he's got two specials that are essentially stuns. Simon's been fun so I might give him a shot instead. That or Link.
well, the side+b reflects stuff, which is super nice

but yeah, i was never a fan of mewtwo's floatiness, weight, and moveset--he'd probably be my main back in melee if he played exactly how i thought he should, which i can't really say for many other characters

i play simon, so i could probably give you a couple pointers

- smashing the stick forward as you throw his boomerang will make it go super far
- the same technique can be done using forward/backward with the axe to throw it further or not as far
- holy water can be caught, so use it wisely
- down-angled forward airs are useful but scary, since you can accidentally do a down air instead, which will result in an SD if you're edgeguarding, so i often opt for down-angled back airs instead
- down-angled forward smashes are useful for sniping anyone hanging off ledges when their invincibility is gone, and because of the sheer distance that it reaches, less intelligent opponents won't see it coming (AIs probably will, though)
- up smash reaches far enough to strike those standing at the top platform of battlefield-type stages
- his tether recovery is weird because it doesn't use the standard Z-air command, and it doesn't work if you're too close to the ledge, but if the ledge is just above you, you can do an up air and it'll work
- the down tilt followup can be used to swiftly leap across the two side platforms of battlefield-type stages, which is an uncommon but decently effective escape technique that i don't see a lot of people use (simon doesn't have a lot of speedy movement options, so you take what you can get)
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Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D


 
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Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.
Sorry to hear

maybe if the game offered more/better single player content


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.
Sorry to hear

maybe if the game offered more/better single player content
Yeah, I'd probably play it more then..

I dunno, I just get no enjoyment out of competitive stuff... at all

It's still pretty fun to watch though, I'd be down for watching any tournaments held here


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D
Play as King Dedede and you'll enjoy the game


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Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D
Play as King Dedede and you'll enjoy the game
Oi do you happen to play as Mario with the Construction skin?


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D
Play as King Dedede and you'll enjoy the game
Oi do you happen to play as Mario with the Construction skin?
Imagine playing as Mario when you could be playing as King K Rool, King Dedede, Simon, and Captain Falcon instead


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Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D
Play as King Dedede and you'll enjoy the game
Oi do you happen to play as Mario with the Construction skin?
Imagine playing as Mario when you could be playing as King K Rool, King Dedede, Simon, and Captain Falcon instead
I was just up against a Jono with that skin.

You havent been given the good medicine by Dr Ridley today I assume?


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D
Play as King Dedede and you'll enjoy the game
Oi do you happen to play as Mario with the Construction skin?
Imagine playing as Mario when you could be playing as King K Rool, King Dedede, Simon, and Captain Falcon instead
I was just up against a Jono with that skin.

You havent been given the good medicine by Dr Ridley today I assume?
Sounds like you haven’t been humbled by K Rool’s belly


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Yeahhhh this isn't for me. Crippling self esteem issues and constant frustration to the point where I can only play the game for like an hour before getting annoyed is pretty telling.

On the plus side, I have more space on my SD card now :D
Play as King Dedede and you'll enjoy the game
Oi do you happen to play as Mario with the Construction skin?
Imagine playing as Mario when you could be playing as King K Rool, King Dedede, Simon, and Captain Falcon instead
I was just up against a Jono with that skin.

You havent been given the good medicine by Dr Ridley today I assume?
Sounds like you haven’t been humbled by K Rool’s belly
For some reason each time I match with K Rool it starts with a sort of teabagging greeting,  like we both know that we got who we wanted and are happy about it.

Until that faggot start spamming to down grab me.....is when I tech grab him off the bottom of the stage


 
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Need practice. Any takers?


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What even is the point of friend lists if I can't ask Verb to cone kick my ass with Jigglypuff without going to some shitty backwater forum that had nothing to do with the game?


 
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What even is the point of friend lists if I can't ask Verb to cone kick my ass with Jigglypuff without going to some shitty backwater forum that had nothing to do with the game?
i can tomorrow


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What even is the point of friend lists if I can't ask Verb to cone kick my ass with Jigglypuff without going to some shitty backwater forum that had nothing to do with the game?
i can tomorrow

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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
Anybody up for 6 hours of input lag when I get a switch
Ready for that sweet Aussie host in the MCC once you get that, unless the game is still region locked


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Ready for that sweet Aussie host in the MCC once you get that, unless the game is still region locked
That only applies to solo matchmaking. It sounds like you can just join a party and the game treats the entire group like it’s from the region of the party leader.

So yee can’t wait to go 2 and 46 while you and Boom fight off the sweaties


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New meta:
>Pick Samus
>Kick Marth's ass up to 170%+ while staying under 30%
>intsntly die to one F-Smash from middle stage



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I neither fear, nor despise.
New meta:
>Pick Samus
>Kick Marth's ass up to 170%+ while staying under 30%
>intsntly die to one F-Smash from middle stage

>Not parrying the tipper fsmash to show Marth the new game mechanics


 
 
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So my boy Link's apparently top tier now? Nice