She likes sexy women.
It's a terrible analogy and makes no sense.
People can make whatever character they like. If they want to make a slutty ninja character that barely wears clothes, more power to them.
Quote from: Tyger on December 16, 2015, 09:32:39 AMQuote from: Verbatim on December 16, 2015, 09:14:09 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AMYou literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.One birth is as bad to me as one rapeW H A TIt's probably worse than rape, actually.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 16, 2015, 09:14:09 AMQuote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AMYou literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.One birth is as bad to me as one rapeW H A T
Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AMYou literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.One birth is as bad to me as one rape
You literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.
Quote from: Have A Holly Jolly Turkey on December 16, 2015, 11:13:03 AMBayonetta's a great character. Sexualization -- even the arbitrary "oversexualization" -- isn't at all tantamount to misogyny.Sure it is.
Bayonetta's a great character. Sexualization -- even the arbitrary "oversexualization" -- isn't at all tantamount to misogyny.
So I'm thinking that Verb is about 60% serious and 40% troll.Like I believe he actually believes some of the things spews into our faces, but like 40% of the time he's just being a contrarian.I mean he's smart. Too smart to believe some of the shit he believes so that's the percentage I came up with.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 16, 2015, 11:54:13 AMQuote from: Have A Holly Jolly Turkey on December 16, 2015, 11:13:03 AMBayonetta's a great character. Sexualization -- even the arbitrary "oversexualization" -- isn't at all tantamount to misogyny.Sure it is.Oh, I see.
One of my problems with what Verbatim is saying is how it's wrong for something to be sexual because (and I've seen him say this before and I think this is what it might boil down to) sexual things are icky and gross. Which in itself is hardly a reason to call for the death of all things sexual in games/media. Even if it's unneeded.
And let's say it was acceptable to demand something be removed because it's icky and gross. The whole idea of sexual objectification is protecting the gender as a whole (male or female) and essentially assigning more value to the human body. (This is the part where I haven't thought this through in it's entirety I'm just throwing this out there for discussion purposes.) Wouldn't assigning the human body value as it is an appeal to nature? You're essentially saying that the human body should not be tampered with because they have to look "normal."
Quote from: TBlocks on December 16, 2015, 01:31:31 PMOne of my problems with what Verbatim is saying is how it's wrong for something to be sexual because (and I've seen him say this before and I think this is what it might boil down to) sexual things are icky and gross. Which in itself is hardly a reason to call for the death of all things sexual in games/media. Even if it's unneeded. Well, it's also because I've yet to see a reason not to think sexual things are icky and gross. I can sit down and indulge in some pornography every now and then. I'm not proud of it--I just concede that I'm a human being with a libido, a sexual desire, that wants to be sated. But after I'm done, I can stand back, evaluate what I just "enjoyed," and come to the conclusion that I don't actually enjoy it--I'm just biologically hard-wired to find that sort of thing stimulating.There's nothing intellectually valuable about it--it's just mindless gratification, and I don't think that sort of thing ought to be celebrated in any other medium. That's what I think. So I ask people why they think their sexual desire is worth expressing in other types of media.No one has to justify their tastes to me, and I understand that. But I still don't get it.
QuoteAnd let's say it was acceptable to demand something be removed because it's icky and gross. The whole idea of sexual objectification is protecting the gender as a whole (male or female) and essentially assigning more value to the human body. (This is the part where I haven't thought this through in it's entirety I'm just throwing this out there for discussion purposes.) Wouldn't assigning the human body value as it is an appeal to nature? You're essentially saying that the human body should not be tampered with because they have to look "normal." ...That's an interesting point. You're using your head, unlike challengerX. I respect that.I don't really have a response. That caught me off guard.I guess all I can really say is that I don't think it's the "natural order" that I'm trying to defend, exactly--but the more I think about it... That's still pretty much all I'm doing. That's what it boils down to. Huh.I'll think about what you just said. You might have just changed my philosophy a little bit.With a throwaway point you weren't fully confident with, no less.
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
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Feminists love bayonetta tho
Sex is horrible and disgusting and should be destroyed.
Leave this planet
Quote from: Dietrich Six on December 16, 2015, 04:08:27 PMFeminists love bayonetta thoFeminists are not hiveminds who agree on everything.
Quote from: Jolly Rocket on December 16, 2015, 04:44:30 PMLeave this planetWould if I could.
A perceived majority of people who identify as feminists appreciate bayonetta as a strong female character.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on December 16, 2015, 04:49:12 PMA perceived majority of people who identify as feminists appreciate bayonetta as a strong female character.They're all wrong.
It seems to me that the only people who think she's a misogynistic character haven't played the game.Have you played the game verbsation?
Quote from: challengerX on December 15, 2015, 07:56:29 PMWhere's your proof for all this?It's common sense. Ask any girl what her opinion on women's representation in games is. I swear, do it.Some of them will say they don't care--they're misogynists. They betray their own gender.
Where's your proof for all this?
Wouldn't assigning the human body value as it is an appeal to nature? You're essentially saying that the human body should not be tampered with because they have to look "normal."
Okay, I'm not actually "done" (but I still hate the fuck out of Bayonetta)
