Okay, I'm not actually "done" (but I still hate the fuck out of Bayonetta)

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 08:26:10 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:00:23 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 04:49:23 AM

Verbatim

If I rape a girl to prevent 100 babies being born, would I be a misogynist or a hero?

Depends on your inner motives.

Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:01:45 AM

Quote from: Simseoh on December 16, 2015, 08:18:53 AM

Is Bayonetta out in Feburary?

Yes

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 09:03:52 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:08:10 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:03:52 AM

Let's say I'm raping a girl because I'm an antinatalist. This would prevent 100 babies from being born.

It would be a horrible circumstance, but yeah, I think it would be morally permissible.

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 09:10:43 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:11:21 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:10:43 AM

FUCKING LOL

You're a lunatic. Thank goodness your little cult is barely known.

You're a lunatic for thinking one hundred more people should be born into a world where they CAN be raped.

I'd personally volunteer to get raped to prevent 100 babies, and if you wouldn't, you're a worthless cunt.
How about that?

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:14:09 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AM

You literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.

If only it's in order to prevent a larger crime.

One birth is as bad to me as one rape.
One hundred births is one hundred times worse than rape.

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 09:15:51 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:16:26 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:15:51 AM

Except most of these people will go on to live happy lives for the most part.

There is no guarantee.

Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:21:24 AM

Now, if you were to ask me personally if I would rape someone to prevent 100 births? I'd have to say no.
There's no way I could bring myself to do it.

The point of these scenarios is that no one wins. If you choose rape, someone gets raped.
But if you choose not to rape, a hundred more innocent children will be born into this absolute shithole.

They're both extremely extremely horrible options.

Elai · December 16, 2015, 09:28:04 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 08:26:10 AM

Your analogy is fucking retarded, and the opposite of how the legal system works.

It wasn't an analogy, it was a comparison. In the same way that the legal system views guilt, I view being wrong. Not wrong until proven otherwise.

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If anything, YOU and Verbatim are on trial. And you've been found guilty.

Of being right.

Tyger · December 16, 2015, 09:32:39 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 16, 2015, 09:14:09 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
You literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.

One birth is as bad to me as one rape

W H A T

Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:33:14 AM

Quote from: Tyger on December 16, 2015, 09:32:39 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 16, 2015, 09:14:09 AM
Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:13:08 AM
You literally just said it's morally permissible to rape someone.
One birth is as bad to me as one rape
W H A T

It's probably worse than rape, actually.

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 09:38:40 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 09:41:46 AM

Quote from: Elink on December 16, 2015, 09:28:04 AM

It wasn't an analogy, it was a comparison. In the same way that the legal system views guilt, I view being wrong. Not wrong until proven otherwise.

That actually is an analogy... just saying

edit:
okay, challenger just told you

Elai · December 16, 2015, 10:25:08 AM

Okay, it's an analogy. I was under the impression that analogy was just a complex comparison but I guess not. Need to turn my brain on today.

It works perfectly fine as an analogy. It follows the same thread of logic.

Innocence=being right, guilt=being wrong.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Sexuality is unnecessary, but as long as it's handled with grace and proper justification it's passable. Bayonetta is neither, and it's a problem.

Turkey · December 16, 2015, 11:13:03 AM

Bayonetta's a great character. Sexualization -- even the arbitrary "oversexualization" -- isn't at all tantamount to misogyny.

Assassin 11D7 · December 16, 2015, 11:19:51 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on December 16, 2015, 09:11:21 AM

Quote from: challengerX on December 16, 2015, 09:10:43 AM
FUCKING LOL

You're a lunatic. Thank goodness your little cult is barely known.
You're a lunatic for thinking one hundred more people should be born into a world where they CAN be raped.

I'd personally volunteer to get raped to prevent 100 babies, and if you wouldn't, you're a worthless cunt.
How about that?

I haven't heard of voluntary rape in a long time.

Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 11:54:13 AM

Quote from: Have A Holly Jolly Turkey on December 16, 2015, 11:13:03 AM

Bayonetta's a great character. Sexualization -- even the arbitrary "oversexualization" -- isn't at all tantamount to misogyny.

Sure it is.

challengerX · December 16, 2015, 11:57:36 AM

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Jim · December 16, 2015, 11:59:34 AM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 12:01:05 PM

And there's no problem with us calling that developer a misogynistic cunt who should either stop being a chauvinist pig and make something that's actually respectful to women, or never make anything again.

Quote from: Jimgle Bells on December 16, 2015, 11:59:34 AM

Bayonetta was designed by a woman

And? She's a cunt.

As I said on the previous page, everybody already knows she was designed by a woman.
I'm sick and tired of people saying this like it's supposed to impress me.

Casper · December 16, 2015, 12:03:53 PM

Why do people still bother arguing with verb? There's no getting through to him.

Jim · December 16, 2015, 12:04:49 PM

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Verbatim · December 16, 2015, 12:06:21 PM

Quote from: Jimgle Bells on December 16, 2015, 12:04:49 PM

So she hates herself? That's odd.

Yes, pretty much. She has no respect for her own gender.

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That appeals to her

Because she's a misogynist pig.

If that appeals to you, you are a misogynist pig.

Jim · December 16, 2015, 12:07:40 PM

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Jim · December 16, 2015, 12:09:43 PM

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