Quote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 05:33:05 PMQuote from: Jira on January 28, 2015, 05:12:33 PMWhile I wouldn't call the idea of a sequel dumb [far from it in fact], Verbatim brings up a good point. If your story is written well a sequel shouldn't be imperative for reasons inside the context of the narrative.But there's a difference between telling a complete story and sequel baiting. Watch Dogs is an example of the latter.Halo CE manages to tell a complete story while leaving room for a sequel. Same with Jak and Daxter. Or Uncharted.Indeed, but there's nothing in my post that contradicts that. Leaving room for a sequel =/= necessitating a sequel. Something like Halo 2 or 3, where conflicts explored in the game are legitimately left open, is the problem.
Quote from: Jira on January 28, 2015, 05:12:33 PMWhile I wouldn't call the idea of a sequel dumb [far from it in fact], Verbatim brings up a good point. If your story is written well a sequel shouldn't be imperative for reasons inside the context of the narrative.But there's a difference between telling a complete story and sequel baiting. Watch Dogs is an example of the latter.Halo CE manages to tell a complete story while leaving room for a sequel. Same with Jak and Daxter. Or Uncharted.
While I wouldn't call the idea of a sequel dumb [far from it in fact], Verbatim brings up a good point. If your story is written well a sequel shouldn't be imperative for reasons inside the context of the narrative.
Arkham Origins is a prequel m80. The Arkham series isn't finished yet.But yeah, the only good third installments I can think of are Dragon Age Inquisition and Halo 3.
Quote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:23:45 PMArkham Origins is a prequel m80. The Arkham series isn't finished yet.But yeah, the only good third installments I can think of are Dragon Age Inquisition and Halo 3.The point is, it's the third installment in the franchise.I'm not even going to comment on your obvious Halo 3 bait.
Quote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 07:56:07 PMQuote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:23:45 PMArkham Origins is a prequel m80. The Arkham series isn't finished yet.But yeah, the only good third installments I can think of are Dragon Age Inquisition and Halo 3.The point is, it's the third installment in the franchise.I'm not even going to comment on your obvious Halo 3 bait.But your title clearly states trilogy. Arkham Origins is not part of the trilogy. Nice backpedaling.
Verbatim's right, if your story is strong enough to stand on its own then it doesn't need a sequel...at all. Maybe another story set in that same universe, a spin-off, but not a sequel. But of course if it has sequels in mind then there's no problem!
Hero dies and then just blackness.
Quote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:27:27 PMHero dies and then just blackness.That would suck, bro.
Quote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 11:30:37 PMQuote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:27:27 PMHero dies and then just blackness.That would suck, bro.Yeah, but then that character can't be reused and their story can't be altered unless some deus ex machina bullshit (which no one likes) is used or a prequel is made. You really wouldn't need to do anything after the huge climax of the game either. It's just done and that's that.
Quote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:37:53 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 11:30:37 PMQuote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:27:27 PMHero dies and then just blackness.That would suck, bro.Yeah, but then that character can't be reused and their story can't be altered unless some deus ex machina bullshit (which no one likes) is used or a prequel is made. You really wouldn't need to do anything after the huge climax of the game either. It's just done and that's that.Well in the context of the thread's topic, I was hoping for a more elaborate depiction of your game's cinematic climax, not it's literal ending.
Quote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 11:40:17 PMQuote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:37:53 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 11:30:37 PMQuote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:27:27 PMHero dies and then just blackness.That would suck, bro.Yeah, but then that character can't be reused and their story can't be altered unless some deus ex machina bullshit (which no one likes) is used or a prequel is made. You really wouldn't need to do anything after the huge climax of the game either. It's just done and that's that.Well in the context of the thread's topic, I was hoping for a more elaborate depiction of your game's cinematic climax, not it's literal ending.Oh, the cinematic climax? Probably close to the same thing. The hero saves the day (or maybe fails) and then character gets rekt or kidnapped right when that all happens. It just kinda works well since you don't have to worry about closing any loose ends on the third one.
Quote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:57:59 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 11:40:17 PMQuote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:37:53 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 11:30:37 PMQuote from: Novice on January 28, 2015, 11:27:27 PMHero dies and then just blackness.That would suck, bro.Yeah, but then that character can't be reused and their story can't be altered unless some deus ex machina bullshit (which no one likes) is used or a prequel is made. You really wouldn't need to do anything after the huge climax of the game either. It's just done and that's that.Well in the context of the thread's topic, I was hoping for a more elaborate depiction of your game's cinematic climax, not it's literal ending.Oh, the cinematic climax? Probably close to the same thing. The hero saves the day (or maybe fails) and then character gets rekt or kidnapped right when that all happens. It just kinda works well since you don't have to worry about closing any loose ends on the third one.I'd have to see it from your mind's perspective, because all I can think about is ME3's ending ruining the entire game for a lot of fans and I see that happening in your hypothetical game, too.
Quote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:58:38 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 07:56:07 PMQuote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:23:45 PMArkham Origins is a prequel m80. The Arkham series isn't finished yet.But yeah, the only good third installments I can think of are Dragon Age Inquisition and Halo 3.The point is, it's the third installment in the franchise.I'm not even going to comment on your obvious Halo 3 bait.But your title clearly states trilogy. Arkham Origins is not part of the trilogy. Nice backpedaling.There's no "backpedaling" here. Origins is the third in the franchise, deal with it. Prior to Arkham Knight's announcement, everyone was okay with calling it a trilogy.I assume Knight will be the best in the RS trilogy, but Origins was third in line.But again, I'm not here to argue semantics. Either add something to the conversation or leave.
I think we can all agree is that Halo 3 is a textbook example of how not to end a trilogy.
Quote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 09:15:31 PMQuote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:58:38 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 07:56:07 PMQuote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:23:45 PMArkham Origins is a prequel m80. The Arkham series isn't finished yet.But yeah, the only good third installments I can think of are Dragon Age Inquisition and Halo 3.The point is, it's the third installment in the franchise.I'm not even going to comment on your obvious Halo 3 bait.But your title clearly states trilogy. Arkham Origins is not part of the trilogy. Nice backpedaling.There's no "backpedaling" here. Origins is the third in the franchise, deal with it. Prior to Arkham Knight's announcement, everyone was okay with calling it a trilogy.I assume Knight will be the best in the RS trilogy, but Origins was third in line.But again, I'm not here to argue semantics. Either add something to the conversation or leave.There's a very stark difference between franchise and trilogy. It's like saying AC Brotherhood is the worst in the trilogy because it was the third installment. Change your OP or stop damage controlling.Seriously, your backpedaling is borderline cringy here.
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on January 29, 2015, 10:18:30 AMI think we can all agree is that Halo 3 is a textbook example of how not to end a trilogy.I think the way they ended it (having the Master Chief be thought dead) was pretty cool, though.
Quote from: Snake on January 29, 2015, 02:21:23 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on January 29, 2015, 10:18:30 AMI think we can all agree is that Halo 3 is a textbook example of how not to end a trilogy.I think the way they ended it (having the Master Chief be thought dead) was pretty cool, though.Yeah, except the Arbiter was like, "Nah man, he's alive" to Hood at the end of Halo 3. No one got that though because everyone misinterpreted "Were it so easy." (even I).
Quote from: Classic Mordo on January 29, 2015, 06:04:02 AMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 09:15:31 PMQuote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:58:38 PMQuote from: Snake on January 28, 2015, 07:56:07 PMQuote from: Classic Mordo on January 28, 2015, 07:23:45 PMArkham Origins is a prequel m80. The Arkham series isn't finished yet.But yeah, the only good third installments I can think of are Dragon Age Inquisition and Halo 3.The point is, it's the third installment in the franchise.I'm not even going to comment on your obvious Halo 3 bait.But your title clearly states trilogy. Arkham Origins is not part of the trilogy. Nice backpedaling.There's no "backpedaling" here. Origins is the third in the franchise, deal with it. Prior to Arkham Knight's announcement, everyone was okay with calling it a trilogy.I assume Knight will be the best in the RS trilogy, but Origins was third in line.But again, I'm not here to argue semantics. Either add something to the conversation or leave.There's a very stark difference between franchise and trilogy. It's like saying AC Brotherhood is the worst in the trilogy because it was the third installment. Change your OP or stop damage controlling.Seriously, your backpedaling is borderline cringy here.I remember why I muted your ass on Bnet, now. You're like the disabled love child of Gojira and Verbatim.Cringe all you want, mate. There's no backpedaling here. You can participate in the conversation that everyone else is or you can continue to try and bait me. Either way, I don't care.
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on January 29, 2015, 03:12:20 PMQuote from: Snake on January 29, 2015, 02:21:23 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on January 29, 2015, 10:18:30 AMI think we can all agree is that Halo 3 is a textbook example of how not to end a trilogy.I think the way they ended it (having the Master Chief be thought dead) was pretty cool, though.Yeah, except the Arbiter was like, "Nah man, he's alive" to Hood at the end of Halo 3. No one got that though because everyone misinterpreted "Were it so easy." (even I).But if everyone misinterpreted what he said (I don't see how you could misinterpret that, but okay), then it fulfilled it's purpose of ending the trilogy like that. Everyone assumed he was dead.It's not like Arby could've known he was alive.
Quote from: Snake on January 29, 2015, 03:19:54 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on January 29, 2015, 03:12:20 PMQuote from: Snake on January 29, 2015, 02:21:23 PMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on January 29, 2015, 10:18:30 AMI think we can all agree is that Halo 3 is a textbook example of how not to end a trilogy.I think the way they ended it (having the Master Chief be thought dead) was pretty cool, though.Yeah, except the Arbiter was like, "Nah man, he's alive" to Hood at the end of Halo 3. No one got that though because everyone misinterpreted "Were it so easy." (even I).But if everyone misinterpreted what he said (I don't see how you could misinterpret that, but okay), then it fulfilled it's purpose of ending the trilogy like that. Everyone assumed he was dead.It's not like Arby could've known he was alive.I always assumed he meant, "If only it was easy to accept his death."As a 12 year old, that's a pretty easy thing to misinterpret.
I want a game where you die at the end and the bad guys win.