Hey Verbatim.

November 28, 2016, 03:03:09 PM

YouTube

Azendac · November 28, 2016, 03:08:50 PM

God I love George, I'd buy some george socks if I wasn't a money grubbing shekel hoarder. His video on bots and 3D gaming are really good, as well as his criticisms of games length and homogeneity in the AAA market.

November 28, 2016, 03:23:05 PM

Quote from: Azendac on November 28, 2016, 03:08:50 PM

God I love George, I'd buy some george socks if I wasn't a money grubbing shekel hoarder. His video on bots and 3D gaming are really good, as well as his criticisms of games length and homogeneity in the AAA market.

I love his reviews on game narratives as well.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · November 28, 2016, 03:42:20 PM

Quote from: Azendac on November 28, 2016, 03:08:50 PM

God I love George, I'd buy some george socks if I wasn't a money grubbing shekel hoarder. His video on bots and 3D gaming are really good, as well as his criticisms of games length and homogeneity in the AAA market.

I met him at DragonCon a couple years back. While his hatred of Peace Walker is anfoogivabaru, he was a pretty cool guy.

Verbatim · November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM

Not watching.

November 28, 2016, 04:20:13 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM

Not watching.

How come? He has a well backed opinion with reliable sources that mods actually assist the games and community.

It's your choice whether or not your 10 or so minutes could be wasted here or on another pointless topic.

Korra · November 28, 2016, 06:01:12 PM

Quote from: Vien on November 28, 2016, 04:20:13 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
Not watching.
How come? He has a well backed opinion with reliable sources that mods actually assist the games and community.

It's your choice whether or not your 10 or so minutes could be wasted here or on another pointless topic.

Its because the video goes against his opinion, Vien. Everyone knows that no one can challenge his opinions.

If it doesn't support it he won't even try to acknowledge it.

November 28, 2016, 06:02:14 PM

Quote from: Yang on November 28, 2016, 06:01:12 PM

Quote from: Vien on November 28, 2016, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
Not watching.
How come? He has a well backed opinion with reliable sources that mods actually assist the games and community.

It's your choice whether or not your 10 or so minutes could be wasted here or on another pointless topic.
Its because the video goes against his opinion, Vien. Everyone knows that no one can challenge his opinions.

If it doesn't support it he won't even try to acknowledge it.

I don't think he could form a rebuttal aside from his hatred.

Korra · November 28, 2016, 06:03:18 PM

Quote from: Vien on November 28, 2016, 06:02:14 PM

Quote from: Yang on November 28, 2016, 06:01:12 PM
Quote from: Vien on November 28, 2016, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
Not watching.
How come? He has a well backed opinion with reliable sources that mods actually assist the games and community.

It's your choice whether or not your 10 or so minutes could be wasted here or on another pointless topic.
Its because the video goes against his opinion, Vien. Everyone knows that no one can challenge his opinions.

If it doesn't support it he won't even try to acknowledge it.
I don't think he could form a rebuttal aside from his hatred.

I mean he could say something like "meh" but that's about it.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · November 28, 2016, 06:34:42 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM

Not watching.

Doctor Doom · November 28, 2016, 08:55:27 PM

Quote from: Yang on November 28, 2016, 06:01:12 PM

Quote from: Vien on November 28, 2016, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
Not watching.
How come? He has a well backed opinion with reliable sources that mods actually assist the games and community.

It's your choice whether or not your 10 or so minutes could be wasted here or on another pointless topic.
Its because the video goes against his opinion, Vien. Everyone knows that no one can challenge his opinions.

If it doesn't support it he won't even try to acknowledge it.

At this point it's more an amusing, somewhat endearing quirk than an annoying foible.

"You have to think exactly as I do and you're a fucking CUNT if you don't!"

Haha, that's our Verb!

Verbatim · November 28, 2016, 09:01:17 PM

yeah that's how i talk

nailed it 👌 👌 👌

have a like

Verbatim · November 28, 2016, 11:04:15 PM

i'll watch and respond later i'm busy

November 29, 2016, 01:07:59 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 11:04:15 PM

i'll watch and respond later i'm busy

Neat-o.

Mattie G Indahouse · November 29, 2016, 04:34:58 AM

But Vien you don't understand. Every single mod just shits all over the developer. If the developer intended for their game(s) to play like or include whatever mod was downloaded, then they would have intended their game to play like that or included it to begin with.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · November 29, 2016, 07:40:05 AM

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=485537937

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all mods are the devil

but budget and deadlines are objects

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all mods distort the developer's vision

nope

November 29, 2016, 03:38:54 PM

Quote from: Kupo & the Two G-strings on November 29, 2016, 07:40:05 AM

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=485537937
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all mods are the devil
but budget and deadlines are objects
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all mods distort the developer's vision
nope

Josh Sawyer from Obsidian made a mod for New Vegas as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/36rw9e/josh_sawyers_mod_for_new_vegas_jsawyer_a_look_at/

snurch · November 29, 2016, 10:28:49 PM

i agree with most of this video but about the readable and modular code

that might not always make the most performant game, just look at bethesdas engine, decades of piling up features onto an aged platform isnt a great idea

and while you can make a moddable game run efficiently in more modern the bad side of this is its still a business

bad programmers (or good programmers who can just do things in efficient but crazy roundabout ways) can keep their code difficult to maintain and understand for the sake of job security

it sucks but it happens, or at least i know it happens in web dev and some software, so im guessing some games might fall into that category

but yeah modding games is great fun and to be able to put something thats tangible and you can see in the game may not be the vision the developer wanted you to see but its not like youre working on an irreplaceable copy of something that can be digitally duplicated millions of times, and you can always go back to the original

i almost look forward to the point where my skyrim breaks again so i could mod it from scratch and play a different game every time

Jono · November 29, 2016, 10:40:57 PM

Nothing wrong with mods just like there's nothing wrong with adblock

Nick McIntyre · November 30, 2016, 02:05:07 AM

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Zonda · November 30, 2016, 07:18:54 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM

That's right, you read my post correctly,
MODDING IS A FUCKING JOKE
"But Verb, Modding is all about showcasing creativity without placing the same restrictions as developers on your work."
NO ITS NOT
nowadays its fucking commercialism, and every year people eat that shit up and download shit they don't really need to have right now because its free, because FUCK HUMAN LIFE, lets push everyone over like cattle just to get our shit.
You wanna know what I really wanna mod guys?
NOTHING
Cause it's Nothing but a joke. A waste of valuable time. You could be doing more productive things.
Like.... actually playing the games!

sorry verb i know this isn't even a good imitation of yours

Mr. Psychologist · November 30, 2016, 07:54:18 AM

Quote from: Zonda on November 30, 2016, 07:18:54 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
That's right, you read my post correctly,
MODDING IS A FUCKING JOKE
"But Verb, Modding is all about showcasing creativity without placing the same restrictions as developers on your work."
NO ITS NOT
nowadays its fucking commercialism, and every year people eat that shit up and download shit they don't really need to have right now because its free, because FUCK HUMAN LIFE, lets push everyone over like cattle just to get our shit.
You wanna know what I really wanna mod guys?
NOTHING
Cause it's Nothing but a joke. A waste of valuable time. You could be doing more productive things.
Like.... actually playing the games!
sorry verb i know this isn't even a good imitation of yours

you forgot the best bit tho

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · November 30, 2016, 02:16:54 PM

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Turkey · November 30, 2016, 03:50:07 PM

I imagine Verb sees mods as a sort of fan fiction, which is generally trash and detracts from the artistic value of a work, despite being a form of artistic expression itself, often helping amateur writers gain exposure and experience -- and is often embraced by the original authors themselves as a way to build the fiction (JK Rowling is a prominent example).

Verbatim · November 30, 2016, 03:53:48 PM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on November 30, 2016, 02:05:07 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM

patience

Quote from: HubbleTurkeyscope on November 30, 2016, 03:50:07 PM

I imagine Verb sees mods as a sort of fan fiction, which is generally trash and detracts from the artistic value of a work, despite being a form of artistic expression itself, often helping amateur writers gain exposure and experience -- and is often embraced by the original authors themselves as a way to build the fiction (JK Rowling is a prominent example).

you got it, in a nutshell

snurch · November 30, 2016, 06:29:32 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 30, 2016, 03:53:48 PM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on November 30, 2016, 02:05:07 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 28, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
patience

Quote from: HubbleTurkeyscope on November 30, 2016, 03:50:07 PM
I imagine Verb sees mods as a sort of fan fiction, which is generally trash and detracts from the artistic value of a work, despite being a form of artistic expression itself, often helping amateur writers gain exposure and experience -- and is often embraced by the original authors themselves as a way to build the fiction (JK Rowling is a prominent example).
you got it, in a nutshell

while you wont mod a game yourself or use them would you object to others using games and their tools to learn and create for themselves

again this doesnt mean you have to like it and with most fanfics its probably trash but for those with the drive and motivation to create and enjoy it would you say thats a bad thing

CIS · December 01, 2016, 09:36:18 PM

Mods are great.

YouTube

R o c k e t · December 02, 2016, 02:27:02 PM

Smash 4 mods tho

velox · December 04, 2016, 03:38:54 PM

so I guess nothing came from this?

December 04, 2016, 03:44:37 PM

Waiting on Verbatim's retort.