It's impossible to build an affordable PC. - Update: Ordered, part list in OP.

 
Elai
| Gay Tupac
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Prehistoric
IP: Logged

19,072 posts
male, he/him

dracula can eat my whole ass!
if nothing else, this thread is evidence that most of the benefits pc players spew off is hype and bullshit. so i'm happy about that.
to be FAIR, you and i are in a minority of people who just don't care about things like graphics or any superfluous "advantage" that a gaming pc has to offer

lol fags

yeah but those things aren't worth caring about


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
to illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.

i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.
that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuck

why are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"
Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 07:20:18 PM by Verbatim


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
yeah it was totally necessary to call her a different name
she changes her name all the time and we've all known her under that alias going 6 years now

i'll keep calling her cystic just to spite you


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
exactly

we're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way though

it's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
exactly

we're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way though

it's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met
don't fall off that high horse

you can't even comprehend how high it is


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
exactly

we're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way though

it's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met
don't fall off that high horse

you can't even comprehend how high it is
the irony of a pc gamer telling me this


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
exactly

we're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way though

it's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met
don't fall off that high horse

you can't even comprehend how high it is
the irony of a pc gamer telling me this
but i'm on my PS3 right now


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
exactly

we're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way though

it's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met
don't fall off that high horse

you can't even comprehend how high it is
the irony of a pc gamer telling me this
but i'm on my PS3 right now
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
yeah but those things aren't worth caring about
exactly

we're talking about people who can't even comprehend why someone would think this way though

it's ultimately their loss—we can be satisfied with basically anything; they can only be satisfied if their fastidious demands are met
don't fall off that high horse

you can't even comprehend how high it is
the irony of a pc gamer telling me this
but i'm on my PS3 right now
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
because of that, I just got off of it, and now i'm gonna play a pc game

think about what you did


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

12,009 posts
 
to illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.

i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.
that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuck

why are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"

i have the income to do that?


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
to illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.

i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.
that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuck

why are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"
i have the income to do that?
>willingly spending more money than you need to play a game on console

but why

i don't care if you're fucking warren buffet, why would you go and do some stupid shit like that
Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 07:26:25 PM by Verbatim


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
especially when cost appears to be of some sort of concern to you, or at least worth bringing up in a discussion of whether PC gaming is "cheaper"

your argument falls flat on its ass when you realize that you don't have to buy games new, and stores that sell used games tend to sell them cheaper than they are on fucking steam
Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 07:28:28 PM by Verbatim


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

12,009 posts
 
to illustrate what i'm talking about with long run price savings i'll compare my steam and xbox one collection.

i've got about 40 games on my xbox one and 116 on steam. about a third of my xbox one games were given to me for free so for to make things simple i'll say 30 of those 40 games i paid for. over the few years i've owned my xbox one i've paid about 1,800 USD for games and we're not counting any of the DLC or XBL i've bought over those years either. during the entire time i've owned my pc i've probably paid about 500 USD for 116 games which has saved about 1,300 USD in comparison.
that's why you don't buy games new you silly fuck

why are you buying 30 brand new games over the course of "a few years"
i have the income to do that?
>willingly spending more money than you need to play a game on console

but why

why not play it now i have the means to? if i don't have to wait 6 months for something to go down to 40 i won't. buying a new game is a non issue for me.

Not sure why you're trying to start something over me supporting developers and publishers via legal means. buying second hand does nothing for devs and publishers and is pretty much no different than a pirated copy for them.
Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 07:30:21 PM by LC


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
why not play it now i have the means to? if i don't have to wait 6 months for something to go down to 40 i won't. buying a new game is a non issue for me.

Not sure why you're trying to start something over me supporting developers and publishers via legal means.
if that was your original stated purpose for buying games new, then i would've respected that

but in general, it's not hard to find used games cheaper than retail price less than a month within any given game's release


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
buying second hand does nothing for devs and publishers and is pretty much no different than a pirated copy for them.
one copy of one game only needs to be paid for once

the unauthorized reproduction of digital copies of games is in no way comparable to reselling one already-paid-for copy that hasn't been reproduced in any way, but cute attempt at a "gotcha"
Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 07:38:20 PM by Verbatim


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

12,009 posts
 
why not play it now i have the means to? if i don't have to wait 6 months for something to go down to 40 i won't. buying a new game is a non issue for me.

Not sure why you're trying to start something over me supporting developers and publishers via legal means.
if that was your original stated purpose for buying games new, then i would've respected that

but in general, it's not hard to find used games cheaper than retail price less than a month within any given game's release

used games don't support the developer though as the only one who makes money from a used sale is the retailer. it's a double win on the PC because you both support the developer directly and get them for a cheaper price due to them not having to take up physical shelf space and having a near nonexistent shipping and packaging cost because of their digital nature. you might even call it a triple win since devs and publishers actually get more money from a new pc sale than they do a console one.


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

12,009 posts
 
buying second hand does nothing for devs and publishers and is pretty much no different than a pirated copy for them.
one copy of one game only needs to be paid for once

the unauthorized reproduction of digital copies of games is in no way comparable to reselling one already-paid-for copy that hasn't been reproduced in any way, but cute attempt at a "gotcha"

you didn't pay the devs for their work though so it's really no different in their eyes. the retailer instead got to double dip on the same copy with the devs and publishers seeing nothing from it.

to give a breakdown of how this works the retailer usually seeing about 15 USD from the sale of a new game. when they turn around and sell that same game again for $50 they're pretty much getting the equivalent of 2 new games sold from that single one copy sold which is the cause for retailers pushing used games so heavily and trying to get people to turn in new games as soon as they beat them.
Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 07:43:35 PM by LC


 
Elai
| Gay Tupac
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Prehistoric
IP: Logged

19,072 posts
male, he/him

dracula can eat my whole ass!
due to them not having to take up physical shelf space

in what world is this a benefit


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
used games don't support the developer though as the only one who makes money from a used sale is the retailer.
retailers deserve money too, and assuming the copy wasn't stolen, there's nothing wrong with buying games this way
Quote
not having to take up physical shelf space
this is a negative
Quote
you might even call it a triple win since devs and publishers actually get more money from a new pc sale than they do a console one.
post proofs


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
you didn't pay the devs for their work though so it's really no different in their eyes. the retailer instead got to double dip on the same copy with the devs and publishers seeing nothing from it.
i don't care

if the developers are THAT greedy, then they can go fuck themselves


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

12,009 posts
 
post proofs


https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18j3z1b9en48ajpg.jpg

this is the anatomy of a $60 retail purchase. Valve takes 30% of a sold game on steam which is slightly higher than your average physical retailer. however when you remove the cost of distribution, console platform royalties, and return (unsold inventory) that goes back tot he publisher/dev instead which grants them $42 of a $60 purchase instead of $27.


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18j3z1b9en48ajpg.jpg

this is the anatomy of a $60 retail purchase. Valve takes 30% of a sold game on steam which is slightly higher than your average physical retailer. however when you remove the cost of distribution, console platform royalties, and return (unsold inventory) that goes back tot he publisher/dev instead which grants them $42 of a $60 purchase instead of $27.
great

and

i'm sure you realize

that this doesn't apply for games that are not available on steam

e.g.

any game that's actually worth playing


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
this is a negative
Not for them making profits it's not

thus, not a negative

you only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objective


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
any game that's actually worth playing
the game is totally worth playing on console but on steam? no!


 
Elai
| Gay Tupac
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Prehistoric
IP: Logged

19,072 posts
male, he/him

dracula can eat my whole ass!
yeah but what if making more money is a negative ?????????


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
yeah but what if making more money is a negative ?????????
then you're communist


 
Verbatim
| Komm, süßer Tod
 
more |
XBL:
PSN: Verbatim-1
Steam: Jaco230
ID: Verbatim
IP: Logged

48,284 posts
this is a negative
Not for them making profits it's not

thus, not a negative

you only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objective
unless buying physical is my only option

and as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steam


 
Luciana
| Mythic Forum Ninja
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Luciana
IP: Logged

13,337 posts
 
this is a negative
Not for them making profits it's not

thus, not a negative

you only say it is because you like physical copies. What you prefer is subjective. What the developer gains via money and revenue is objective
and as it turns out, the only video games worth playing on this entire planet are the ones that are not available on steam
that makes no sense, verb

cross platform is something that exists for almost everything

why is its value more on console than PC when it's the same thing


 
big sponge
| PP
 
more |
XBL:
PSN:
Steam:
ID: Lord Commissar
IP: Logged

12,009 posts
 
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18j3z1b9en48ajpg.jpg

this is the anatomy of a $60 retail purchase. Valve takes 30% of a sold game on steam which is slightly higher than your average physical retailer. however when you remove the cost of distribution, console platform royalties, and return (unsold inventory) that goes back tot he publisher/dev instead which grants them $42 of a $60 purchase instead of $27.
great

and

i'm sure you realize

that this doesn't apply for games that are not available on steam

e.g.

any game that's actually worth playing

we're obviously talking about multiplatform games here if we're comparing the amount of money the publishers/devs make on a console sale vs a pc sale. console exclusives don't play into this conversation at all.

dark souls for example makes more money per copy on PC than it does on console