It's kinda pathetic that the XB1's first 'proper' exclusive can barely maintain 60fps.

in favour of gimping the game?
nah

343 IDF out in full force I see.

Quote from: Luciana on November 30, 2015, 12:08:54 PM

I think it is

who plays split screen in 2015?

Going by my own experiences with friends and acquaintances combined with the pretty massive outrage on forums after this was announced (which apparently reached such a magnitude that 343 tried to find a way to add splitscreen but found themselves simply unable to because of how the engine was designed)? I'd say quite a number of people still enjoy actually directly socialising with people while playing games. Apparently, 343 even recognized that the number was large enough that they're going to try and implement splitscreen in Halo 6.

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Also... Isn't Halo 5 only 60 fps in a small bubble around you?

Yeah

Enemy animations at distance are 30

Sounds like Dark Souls 2.

It's kinda pathetic that the XB1's first 'proper' exclusive can barely maintain 60fps. The resolution alters when things get hectic to keep a consistent frame rate.

It's not pathetic at all when you realize the hardware was out of date since before it even came out. On both platforms.

The 360 and PS3's potential was far more powerful and greater, and actually ahead on the market (even with PC's) in many cases. Not the fact with Xbone and PS4. I assume due to how much it costs building it, inflation, etc.

Last gen didn't hit its limit until around a decade later. Current gen hit it before it even hit the markets.

That's what I meant. Eight-gen concoles are hilariously underpowered.

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Quote from: Luciana on November 30, 2015, 12:08:54 PM

I think it is

who plays split screen in 2015?

Going by my own experiences with friends and acquaintances combined with the pretty massive outrage on forums after this was announced (which apparently reached such a magnitude that 343 tried to find a way to add splitscreen but found themselves simply unable to because of how the engine was designed)? I'd say quite a number of people still enjoy actually directly socialising with people while playing games. Apparently, 343 even recognized that the number was large enough that they're going to try and implement splitscreen in Halo 6.

The number is still very small though. A couple hundred people is a drop in the ocean.

I alone can find a couple hundred people who love splitscreen from my own high school. If 343 decided that they're going to try and implement it for Halo 6 and both MS and Sony intentionally included the possibility for splitscreen and numerous controllers to be used simultaneously, I strongly doubt that only a few hundred people making up just a miniscule fraction of gamers are still interested in being able to play splitscreen.

If a large portion of Halo players used split screen still to warrant split screen in Halo 5, it'd be in 343's best interest to keep it, instead of deciding to cut it in favour of other possibilities that would open up.

That evidently wasn't and isn't the case.

The fact that thousands of people complained, that 343 evaluated how possible it would be to add it through a patch and that they now went on to state that the complaints have been far too many to ignore and that they're already looking at how to make it work for Halo 6 suggests the complete opposite. They made a mistake and realized that now.

I get that many people don't like splitscreen if it holds back other things, but I really don't see the issue if they can limit the downsides to people deciding to opt for splitscreen, just like how numerous games have been doing for years. With more people being connected to high speed internet and the much improved ways of socializing from a distance these days, it makes sense that less people will go for splitscreen. But obviously, that number is not non-existent or negligible yet.

Stable 60fps, the highest possible resolution and having the full screen at your disposal are of vital importance to you? Great, then don't play splitscreen. The people who do will gladly sacrifice some frames to be able to play the games with friends.

Think that guests are always incredibly awful players, despite this not being true and terrible players playing by themselves just the same? Stick to the playlists that don't allow them.

I genuinely don't get what the issue is here if they tweak their engine by Halo 6.