Spoiler Halo Mega Thread

Jono has a double digit IQ and cannot grasp that soul and effort does not directly correlate to quality of final product.

Because the handful of designers that created three mediocre maps in the level editing tool obviously mean that none of the couple hundred artists, writers, designers, audio technicians, programmers, and so forth that worked on everything else cared about what they were doing, right?

Nah, they really didn't. If the artists and designers really cared about the game, they would have given us multiple Forge World maps instead of just 1 where everything looks exactly the same with that boring and lazy green, blue, and gray color scheme. Forge World's layout was also awkward, especially on the island with Paradiso. There should have been more natural flat areas except for the only one on top of the coliseum.

I find it hard to believe that you sincerely think that because the main multiplayer's execution was kind of mediocre, that nobody working on the game was invested in making their swansong to the series that took the studio from a quirky startup with a dozen employees to one of the biggest names in the industry as good as they could possibly make it.

Kind of mediocre is an understatement when it comes to how fucking garbage the Reach multiplayer is. Reach hands down has one of the WORST multiplayers in Halo along with Halo 4. They made it slower, introduced things to the sandbox that broke the game(armor abilities, sword block etc), removed a lot of weapons, introduced bloom which wasn't needed/wanted, made the vehicles made out of paper, and created the DMR which is the most bullshit and broken weapon to ever be put into Halo.

Reach didn't feel like a swansong at all since Bungie was already working on Destiny at the time. They had to make Reach because they were under contract by Microsoft and had to make it under authority.

Hell, I would probably consider Halo 5 to be one of, if not the, worst games I've ever bought, and incompetent in more or less every single department, but I would still be remiss to say that nobody working on the game cared about what they were doing.

If you think Halo 5 is one of the worst games you've played then you must not play much games at all. The gameplay and multiplayer in Halo 5 is light years ahead of Reach's and Halo 4's. It's not a game I would prefer over Halo 2 or Halo 3 but I'd take it over Reach and 4 any day.

Seriously, you're letting your dislike of the multiplayer (which is totally justified, mind) cloud the fact that the game was still clearly a labour of love put in from nearly every other department except maybe the writing team. Hell, I'd say that for just about any game outside of sub-contracted shovelware movie tie ins or studios that are working their employees to the bone with crunch hours to release for Q4, it's disingenuous to suggest that the team flat out doesn't give a shit about what they're doing.

Reach as a whole is a colossal dumpster fire from the campaign to multiplayer. We were promised bigger battles yet all those battles are off in the distance, being a part of the skybox that we can't partake in. We were promised a satisfying campaign from beginning to end with likable characters but we got a complete borefest with some of the worst voice acting that makes games like Rambo seem award-winning candidates. We were promised hardcore competitive multiplayer but we ended up getting one of the worst multiplayers in the series that drove hundreds of thousands of players away to other games or back to the previous game.

Reach was the beginning and downfall of the series and you can defend it all you want but the game is literal trash.

they would have given us multiple Forge World maps

you know there's such a thing as resources and time constraints, right?

they would have given us multiple Forge World maps

you know there's such a thing as resources and time constraints, right?

3 years is plenty of time to make a game like Halo filled with tons of shit

Reach MP is still better than H4's.
It was the last Bungie Halo and I think it was one of their best projects.

they would have given us multiple Forge World maps

you know there's such a thing as resources and time constraints, right?

3 years is plenty of time to make a game like Halo filled with tons of shit

Have you seen Halo 5 at launch?

xDDD

Because the handful of designers that created three mediocre maps in the level editing tool obviously mean that none of the couple hundred artists, writers, designers, audio technicians, programmers, and so forth that worked on everything else cared about what they were doing, right?

Nah, they really didn't. If the artists and designers really cared about the game, they would have given us multiple Forge World maps instead of just 1 where everything looks exactly the same with that boring and lazy green, blue, and gray color scheme. Forge World's layout was also awkward, especially on the island with Paradiso. There should have been more natural flat areas except for the only one on top of the coliseum.

Because when they struggled to put that one map in the game, it's totally reasonable to expect multiple of them, right?

I find it hard to believe that you sincerely think that because the main multiplayer's execution was kind of mediocre, that nobody working on the game was invested in making their swansong to the series that took the studio from a quirky startup with a dozen employees to one of the biggest names in the industry as good as they could possibly make it.

Kind of mediocre is an understatement when it comes to how fucking garbage the Reach multiplayer is. Reach hands down has one of the WORST multiplayers in Halo along with Halo 4. They made it slower, introduced things to the sandbox that broke the game(armor abilities, sword block etc), removed a lot of weapons, introduced bloom which wasn't needed/wanted, made the vehicles made out of paper, and created the DMR which is the most bullshit and broken weapon to ever be put into Halo.

Reach didn't feel like a swansong at all since Bungie was already working on Destiny at the time. They had to make Reach because they were under contract by Microsoft and had to make it under authority.

Hell, I would probably consider Halo 5 to be one of, if not the, worst games I've ever bought, and incompetent in more or less every single department, but I would still be remiss to say that nobody working on the game cared about what they were doing.

If you think Halo 5 is one of the worst games you've played then you must not play much games at all. The gameplay and multiplayer in Halo 5 is light years ahead of Reach's and Halo 4's. It's not a game I would prefer over Halo 2 or Halo 3 but I'd take it over Reach and 4 any day.

Not an argument.

Seriously, you're letting your dislike of the multiplayer (which is totally justified, mind) cloud the fact that the game was still clearly a labour of love put in from nearly every other department except maybe the writing team. Hell, I'd say that for just about any game outside of sub-contracted shovelware movie tie ins or studios that are working their employees to the bone with crunch hours to release for Q4, it's disingenuous to suggest that the team flat out doesn't give a shit about what they're doing.

Reach as a whole is a colossal dumpster fire from the campaign to multiplayer. We were promised bigger battles yet all those battles are off in the distance, being a part of the skybox that we can't partake in. We were promised a satisfying campaign from beginning to end with likable characters but we got a complete borefest with some of the worst voice acting that makes games like Rambo seem award-winning candidates. We were promised hardcore competitive multiplayer but we ended up getting one of the worst multiplayers in the series that drove hundreds of thousands of players away to other games or back to the previous game.

Reach was the beginning and downfall of the series and you can defend it all you want but the game is literal trash.

I mean, from what I've read even just putting the amount of shit that was in the opening cutscene for Tip of the Spear was intensive on resources and that was entirely pre-scripted (but still rendered in-engine, mind). The writing was pretty bad but I'd hardly say the voice acting was bad - I mean, it's not like the actors themselves had much material to work with.

Again, you seem to be completely and purposefully missing the point (or as said above, you just have a double digit IQ and can't separate quality of the final product from effort put into it) and using the fact that you dislike the game as an excuse to say that the people who worked on it for three years didn't spend three years putting their heart into it. I don't give a shit what you think of the final product - it's aged like shit and I'm only biased towards it because I played a fuckton of forge and custom games - but I do give a shit when you start dismissing the work that gets put in because you're acting like a crybaby who didn't get his way because he has completely unrealistic expectations given the technology in play at the time and is disappointed at poor writing from a company that was hardly writing shakespearean epics in the first place. Is there hypocrisy there based on how I acted after H5 released? Sure, but I'm also the first one to say that the majority of things I said more than six months ago were me being a retard.

majority of things I said more than six months ago were me being a retard.

remember when you said warden eternal was an interesting character

they would have given us multiple Forge World maps

you know there's such a thing as resources and time constraints, right?

3 years is plenty of time to make a game like Halo filled with tons of shit

The only other game on X360 at the time Reach was developed doing anything near the scale of Forge World was Bad Company 2 - y'know, that game developed on Frostbite, one of the most impressive engines out there, and one completely and wholly developed purely to create battlefield games? Even aside from that, you seem to be forgetting that in terms of raw featureset, Reach was (and remains to this day) the most feature-complete game at launch.

If you seriously think the effort that goes into map creation on that scale (hell, on any scale) is that trivial, you pretty obviously know jack shit about anything in development.

majority of things I said more than six months ago were me being a retard.

remember when you said warden eternal was an interesting character

Yeah, I was trying to rationalise the fact that I'd bought into pre-order hype culture and spent 40 quid on shit because "It won't happen to me".

Yeah, jono is a dummy

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Jono was there for me when I needed someone to shit on in cod, where were you?

Jono was there for me when I needed someone to shit on in cod, where were you?

you didn't ask

Jono was there for me when I needed someone to shit on in cod, where were you?

you didn't ask

I suppose you're right

Waiting for the MCC MMXVIII update got me like

Cortana on LASO but all the enemies are replaced with:
-Halo 2 Jackal Snipers
-Halo Reach Elites with Halo 4 Needlers
-Combat Evolved SPNKr Combat Forms
-actual players who can invade you with Halo 4 pre-patch DMRs and Boltshots
-Your only available weapons are the Halo 2 pistol and spikier
-Chief is wearing the Seeker helmet
-Arbiter is replaced with Tanaka

Cortana on LASO but all the enemies are replaced with:
-Halo 2 Jackal Snipers
-Halo Reach Elites with Halo 4 Needlers
-Combat Evolved SPNKr Combat Forms
-actual players who can invade you with Halo 4 pre-patch DMRs and Boltshots
-Your only available weapons are the Halo 2 pistol and spikier
-Chief is wearing the Seeker helmet
-Arbiter is replaced with Tanaka

Cortana isn't even the most difficult mission in any Halo. This meme needs to stop right now.

Cortana on LASO but all the enemies are replaced with:
-Halo 2 Jackal Snipers
-Halo Reach Elites with Halo 4 Needlers
-Combat Evolved SPNKr Combat Forms
-actual players who can invade you with Halo 4 pre-patch DMRs and Boltshots
-Your only available weapons are the Halo 2 pistol and spikier
-Chief is wearing the Seeker helmet
-Arbiter is replaced with Tanaka

Cortana isn't even the most difficult mission in any Halo. This meme needs to stop right now.

The mission gives you a near endless supply of Energy Swords and Gravity Hammers but nah, it's too difficult m8 haven't you heard /s

Cortana on LASO but all the enemies are replaced with:
-Halo 2 Jackal Snipers
-Halo Reach Elites with Halo 4 Needlers
-Combat Evolved SPNKr Combat Forms
-actual players who can invade you with Halo 4 pre-patch DMRs and Boltshots
-Your only available weapons are the Halo 2 pistol and spikier
-Chief is wearing the Seeker helmet
-Arbiter is replaced with Tanaka

Cortana isn't even the most difficult mission in any Halo. This meme needs to stop right now.

The mission gives you a near endless supply of Energy Swords and Gravity Hammers but nah, it's too difficult m8 haven't you heard /s

Don't forget the endless dual plasma rifles that melt every type of Flood. Oh and the Brute Shot that it stronger than both the sword and hammer

Literally makes me fume sometimes

And for the record, Heretic Elites with rockets are far scarier than combat forms with rockets.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

Oh boy can't wait for 343 to treat us like children and tell us that THIS map is what you're going to play and you're going to like it, rather than doing the smart thing and bringing back the veto system. I can already feel the anger of back-to-back-to-back halo 4 matches

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

Oh boy can't wait for 343 to treat us like children and tell us that THIS map is what you're going to play and you're going to like it, rather than doing the smart thing and bringing back the veto system. I can already feel the anger of back-to-back-to-back halo 4 matches

Hey at least they're separating games into their own playlists so I don't have to search BTB and get 15 games of CTF on Gephyrophobia now.

I want BTB on Death Island only tbh

BTB One Flag on Headlong or GTFO

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

Oh boy can't wait for 343 to treat us like children and tell us that THIS map is what you're going to play and you're going to like it, rather than doing the smart thing and bringing back the veto system. I can already feel the anger of back-to-back-to-back halo 4 matches

Fuck off, you're probably the exact reason they are doing this, being one of the fuckers who votes Rat's Nest 300,000 times in a fucking row.
I never want to as much as see an icon for a Halo 3 map again in my lifetime.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

Oh boy can't wait for 343 to treat us like children and tell us that THIS map is what you're going to play and you're going to like it, rather than doing the smart thing and bringing back the veto system. I can already feel the anger of back-to-back-to-back halo 4 matches

I WISH that everyone was voting for H3 when I was playing. Instead it was always Halo 4 even when H2 and H3 were also available! You are presented with a gold and a silver bar and they pick a pile of vomit instead.... wtf is wrong with ppl?

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-development-update-2

Oh boy can't wait for 343 to treat us like children and tell us that THIS map is what you're going to play and you're going to like it, rather than doing the smart thing and bringing back the veto system. I can already feel the anger of back-to-back-to-back halo 4 matches

Fuck off, you're probably the exact reason they are doing this, being one of the fuckers who votes Rat's Nest 300,000 times in a fucking row.
I never want to as much as see an icon for a Halo 3 map again in my lifetime.

I'M the reason why? Where did you dig up that bullshit? Because numerous times in this very thread I've ranted about how I've played Last Resort NINE FUCKING times in a row and that randomising the vote slots or a veto system would solve all the issues. In fact my post you quoted even says so. Sorry I struck about 50 nerves with that Halo 4 comment so you clearly lost your train of thought and went full on HURR DURR FUCK HALO 3 KIDS but please don't spaz out like that next time.

Hey guys what do you call a jackal pirate?

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a mother fuckin KIG-YARR 😂😂