Friendly reminder that Fallout 3 was a disservice to the franchise

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Wait, you're seriously proclaiming Fallout 3 as the worst Fallout game because of canon? Are you shitting me? Fallout's "lore" has always sucked. The saving graces of the games are atmosphere, karma, choices, and gameplay. And F3 definitely delivered on three of those four fronts.
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Wait, you're seriously proclaiming Fallout 3 as the worst Fallout game because of canon? Are you shitting me? Fallout's "lore" has always sucked. The saving graces of the games are atmosphere, karma, choices, and gameplay. And F3 definitely delivered on three of those four fronts.
Atmosphere didn't fit with the established lore. Karma was binary, choices were, again, binary. Gameplay was the only saving grace for the game.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Fallout 3 was a great post-apocalyptic open world shooter.
As a Fallout game it was a complete train wreck.
> Fallout 3 was a disservice to the franchise

It drove interest in the series, which in turn produced NV which apparently is more cannonically accurate (if that's a word).

So that "disservice" revived the series which would otherwise have fallen into the fogs of unknown games.
Not what we were talknig about.
It still ruined cannon. Thus it is a disservice.

So you'd rather have no modern Fallouts at all?

Ok.


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Fallout 3 was a great post-apocalyptic open world shooter.
As a Fallout game it was a complete train wreck.
> Fallout 3 was a disservice to the franchise

It drove interest in the series, which in turn produced NV which apparently is more cannonically accurate (if that's a word).

So that "disservice" revived the series which would otherwise have fallen into the fogs of unknown games.
Not what we were talknig about.
It still ruined cannon. Thus it is a disservice.

So you'd rather have no modern Fallouts at all?

Ok.
I never said that.
I can appreciate that Bethsoft decided to allow Obsidian to do massive amounts of damage control for the series, but that doesn't change the fact that BGS continues to ruin everything it touches.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Fallout 3 was a great post-apocalyptic open world shooter.
As a Fallout game it was a complete train wreck.
> Fallout 3 was a disservice to the franchise

It drove interest in the series, which in turn produced NV which apparently is more cannonically accurate (if that's a word).

So that "disservice" revived the series which would otherwise have fallen into the fogs of unknown games.
Not what we were talknig about.
It still ruined cannon. Thus it is a disservice.

So you'd rather have no modern Fallouts at all?

Ok.
I never said that.
I can appreciate that Bethsoft decided to allow Obsidian to do massive amounts of damage control for the series, but that doesn't change the fact that BGS continues to ruin everything it touches.
Then simply acknowledge it can't be a disservice if it revived the franchise. What you're saying conflicts this (though I assume now the discussion is a wider debate about Bethesda than actually Fallout 3 itself).


 
 
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Fallout 3 was a great post-apocalyptic open world shooter.
As a Fallout game it was a complete train wreck.
> Fallout 3 was a disservice to the franchise

It drove interest in the series, which in turn produced NV which apparently is more cannonically accurate (if that's a word).

So that "disservice" revived the series which would otherwise have fallen into the fogs of unknown games.
Not what we were talknig about.
It still ruined cannon. Thus it is a disservice.

So you'd rather have no modern Fallouts at all?

Ok.
I never said that.
I can appreciate that Bethsoft decided to allow Obsidian to do massive amounts of damage control for the series, but that doesn't change the fact that BGS continues to ruin everything it touches.
Then simply acknowledge it can't be a disservice if it revived the franchise. What you're saying conflicts this (though I assume now the discussion is a wider debate about Bethesda than actually Fallout 3 itself).
But it still shat on the franchise.
Bethsoft could have just as easily decided to let BGS continue to make sequels and that would have been terrible.
By some odd reason Obsidian was given a chance to make a sequel and that was good. But it doesn't change the fact that F3 didn't help the actual game.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
But it doesn't change the fact that F3 didn't help the actual game.

...that don't make no sense.


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But it doesn't change the fact that F3 didn't help the actual game.

...that don't make no sense.
It didn't.
Anyone could have made a modern fallout better.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
But it doesn't change the fact that F3 didn't help the actual game.

...that don't make no sense.
It didn't.
Anyone could have made a modern fallout better.
I doubt it. Interplay/Obsidian are the only contenders, and they did already. But only after Fallout 3.


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But it doesn't change the fact that F3 didn't help the actual game.

...that don't make no sense.
It didn't.
Anyone could have made a modern fallout better.
I doubt it. Interplay/Obsidian are the only contenders, and they did already. But only after Fallout 3.
No, literally anyone could have.
Infinity Ward would have been a better choice for the game.
Instead we get the same people who made the travesty that was oblivion instead.


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then people shit all over Bethesda and praise New Vegas, even though New Vegas simply added onto what Bethesda already created.
Maybe the reason why people liked NV better is simply because of the things the developers did. The game is a lot closer to the original games than what F3 is. There's a bunch of references to them and it ported things over from them to NV.

The game has a story that's not filled with potholes. Can you tell me how this cave of children survived being next to a vault filled with super mutants or how this building filled with rich people hasn't been raided yet?

The characters have a lot more back story and personalty to them. Your followers are unique and have unique quests and a decent detailed back story. When it comes to Fallout 3 and Skyrim the characters are pretty damn bland.





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> people getting food from a supermarket for two hundred years

Yeah, there is no saving grace for F3.