First picture of ODST on X1

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its do able, you just need smoke grenades.
I'll need to try that, thanks.


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Hence work in progress.. By the way, ODST is being given to us, for FREE (As long as you have MCC of course).. Little room for bitching to be honest

Actually, no it isn't. See, 343 made a deal with satan. They give us ODST for free so we can enjoy it in glorious HD. But only if they killed the main character off so that no more ODST in glorious HD can ever be made again.

Them sneaky fucks.
More than one ODST exists you know.
Rookie wasn't even really a character. He was just a plot/story vehicle.


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It doesn't like there was any graphical improvements (yet, though if they've announced this then I assume it's already too late for that), more like a simple port-over.
of course its just a port-over
They never once said it was getting a graphical update. They specifically said it was only getting the same treatment as Halo 3 & 4.


 
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Hence work in progress.. By the way, ODST is being given to us, for FREE (As long as you have MCC of course).. Little room for bitching to be honest

Actually, no it isn't. See, 343 made a deal with satan. They give us ODST for free so we can enjoy it in glorious HD. But only if they killed the main character off so that no more ODST in glorious HD can ever be made again.

Them sneaky fucks.
OK so they killed off the Rookie who was a fantastic developed character. Why couldn't they make other ODST games that have the other ODST characters from the game to be a main chracter? KoTOR is a sequel to the first game but we play as a different character. You don't have to play as the same person for the game to be a sequl or have more games in a series.

Cough.

Halo CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 4

Mass Effect
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3

Dead Space
Dead Space 2
Dead Space 3

Arguably half the Assassin's creed series.

Now, key point here. You can argue, that out there, there are just as many games with sequels not involving one central character. However, arguably, in an ever expanding universe, and a big one at that, it is incredibly challenging to make a stand alone game.

And if we're going to bring up complaints of Rookie being a drab character, then lets talk about how hard it is to make a standalone game with a character that has lots of character.

Do you tend to notice, that as sequels progress, as a journey happens with a character over the course of sequels, that a character arguably emerges?

Take a look at Isaac Clark. First Dead Space, he was silent. Second Dead Space, he had a voice. A now visible character for people to become attached to.

Take a look at Ezio Auditore. Take a look at Cortana, Master Chief, Thel Vadam.

Arguably, the best characters often show up and develop over time. And while I'm not saying that it should stop developers from making games with main characters that have no defining character,  unfortunately for us, gaming is now an industry. Held in tight reigns by big corporate giants.

And big corporate giants, are, unfortunately followers of the trends. They're rather rigid and inflexible. Case and point with microsoft, not a year or two ago.

"We want Halo to focus more on the Chief than with games like ODST or Reach."

A standalone game, with a good main character, or a series of stand alone games, with good main characters, just aren't possible with the current mindset of the market. They stick to what's safe.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
Last Edit: March 15, 2015, 05:15:02 PM by Decimator Omega


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Key words before everybody gets up in arms.

"Work in progress."

If you folks know anything about how a game works, doing lighting tests is important.

343 has added unnecessary lighting before on purpose, mainly with CEA, but you're right. I use debug lighting if I'm testing something myself, so I honestly hope this is just what it is, debug lighting.


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That better be with VISR on.

Making Mombasa streets bright absolutely kills the atmosphere.
Nope there's no outline on the environment

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it's debug lighting.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.


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I don't care if the lighting is a little off, I just want to play ODST again.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
You're allowed to use Halo and other MS franchises as long as you don't monetize whatever it is you're making. You are allowed to make money on YouTube content that has MS' properties in it though.

There's already two fan-made Halo games being made.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
http://www.project-contingency.net/h1-home


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
http://www.project-contingency.net/h1-home

Thanks. I'll check this out.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
You're allowed to use Halo and other MS franchises as long as you don't monetize whatever it is you're making. You are allowed to make money on YouTube content that has MS' properties in it though.

There's already two fan-made Halo games being made.

Huh. I see. I'll have to get involved with the CE community and see what they're up to.


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Hopefully they'll make ODST's Campaign Co-Op more usable than Halo 3's?


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I imagine they upped the lighting so you could see the environment better. The original view was very dark.


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Hence work in progress.. By the way, ODST is being given to us, for FREE (As long as you have MCC of course).. Little room for bitching to be honest

Actually, no it isn't. See, 343 made a deal with satan. They give us ODST for free so we can enjoy it in glorious HD. But only if they killed the main character off so that no more ODST in glorious HD can ever be made again.

Them sneaky fucks.
More than one ODST exists you know.
Rookie wasn't even really a character. He was just a plot/story vehicle.

The Rookie was suppose to be the player from what I know. That's why he never spoke. As in you the player identify with the rookie.


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Hence work in progress.. By the way, ODST is being given to us, for FREE (As long as you have MCC of course).. Little room for bitching to be honest

Actually, no it isn't. See, 343 made a deal with satan. They give us ODST for free so we can enjoy it in glorious HD. But only if they killed the main character off so that no more ODST in glorious HD can ever be made again.

Them sneaky fucks.
More than one ODST exists you know.
Rookie wasn't even really a character. He was just a plot/story vehicle.

The Rookie was suppose to be the player from what I know. That's why he never spoke. As in you the player identify with the rookie.
The Rookie was a story/plot vehicle. He only existed to take you through the game's story.
He wasn't even a character really, just a blank slab.

Rookie being killed off doesn't rule out the possibility of future ODST games.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
http://www.project-contingency.net/h1-home

Thanks. I'll check this out.


There also Installation 01 and Sins o te Prophets, the latter being a huge mod for the game Sins o a Solar Empire.

If you count it, there was the smaller fan project UNSC Warfare on the Internet, though that was more of a test for an idea. The guy making it messaged 343 and they confirmed you can make a Halo game as long as its free and doesn't have Halo in the title (Hene Project Contingency, Installation 01 both not having Halo in the title), so people aren't getting confused between official and fan creations and canon.


 
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"BRIGHTER! MAKE IT BRIGHTER!!! LIGHTS LIGHTS AHHAHAHAHA"

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Looks pretty badass. Everyone needs to chill with the lighting, I'm positive they'll fix it.


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I'm not sure if that is VISR for those speculating that it is.

VISR illuminates objects with a green and red tinge. It doesn't light up the city like a Christmas tree. I'm a bit apprehensive about this.


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I feel like people missed the huge 'Work in progress' on the left.


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I feel like people missed the huge 'Work in progress' on the left.

Debug lighting. We get it.


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"We have a dark game with echoes to Blade Runner. Hm, how do we make it BETTER?"
"BRIGHTER! MAKE IT BRIGHTER!!! LIGHTS LIGHTS AHHAHAHAHA"

The staff meeting for Halo 3: ODST's design document.

Okay, if it's not debug lighting, then we complain. Otherwise, I'm sure it's just debug lighting to test out the environment. Developers need to cheat in order to see if their crap would work or not.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
http://www.project-contingency.net/h1-home

Thanks. I'll check this out.


There also Installation 01 and Sins o te Prophets, the latter being a huge mod for the game Sins o a Solar Empire.

If you count it, there was the smaller fan project UNSC Warfare on the Internet, though that was more of a test for an idea. The guy making it messaged 343 and they confirmed you can make a Halo game as long as its free and doesn't have Halo in the title (Hene Project Contingency, Installation 01 both not having Halo in the title), so people aren't getting confused between official and fan creations and canon.

I should see if I could make an ODST game using the ODST engine, though that's probably not feasible because it's never been publicly released aside from the game ODST, and to decomplie that would cost so much fucking money, I'd have to spend money on a Jtag and that's just the beginning.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
http://www.project-contingency.net/h1-home

Thanks. I'll check this out.


There also Installation 01 and Sins o te Prophets, the latter being a huge mod for the game Sins o a Solar Empire.

If you count it, there was the smaller fan project UNSC Warfare on the Internet, though that was more of a test for an idea. The guy making it messaged 343 and they confirmed you can make a Halo game as long as its free and doesn't have Halo in the title (Hene Project Contingency, Installation 01 both not having Halo in the title), so people aren't getting confused between official and fan creations and canon.

I should see if I could make an ODST game using the ODST engine, though that's probably not feasible because it's never been publicly released aside from the game ODST, and to decomplie that would cost so much fucking money, I'd have to spend money on a Jtag and that's just the beginning.
Just use one of the many open source engines that are available.


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Hence work in progress.. By the way, ODST is being given to us, for FREE (As long as you have MCC of course).. Little room for bitching to be honest

Actually, no it isn't. See, 343 made a deal with satan. They give us ODST for free so we can enjoy it in glorious HD. But only if they killed the main character off so that no more ODST in glorious HD can ever be made again.

Them sneaky fucks.
More than one ODST exists you know.
Rookie wasn't even really a character. He was just a plot/story vehicle.

The Rookie was suppose to be the player from what I know. That's why he never spoke. As in you the player identify with the rookie.
The Rookie was a story/plot vehicle. He only existed to take you through the game's story.
He wasn't even a character really, just a blank slab.

Rookie being killed off doesn't rule out the possibility of future ODST games.

Sadly that's not what kills it off, since 343 converted ODST's into Spartan 4's somehow or whatever they're called.


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If they don't change that, I will never buy another product from 343.

Seriously, it looks oversaturated as fuck, not to mention we all know there won't even be ANY firefight. What really bothers me is how badly I want to have my own ports let alone create my very own Halo game using existing Bungie assets, but that would only get me sued.

This is why I stick with the Xbox, PC, and 360 versions of the games.

Edit: Looking at it now I honestly hope that's just debug lighting.
You won't get sued for making your own Halo game as long as you aren't making any money off of it.
It's stated in MS' fair use document.

Well it would be an obvious freebie, but that's legal to do? I thought you could only make maps on the PC versions and revisions to whatever CMT is doing.
http://www.project-contingency.net/h1-home

Thanks. I'll check this out.


There also Installation 01 and Sins o te Prophets, the latter being a huge mod for the game Sins o a Solar Empire.

If you count it, there was the smaller fan project UNSC Warfare on the Internet, though that was more of a test for an idea. The guy making it messaged 343 and they confirmed you can make a Halo game as long as its free and doesn't have Halo in the title (Hene Project Contingency, Installation 01 both not having Halo in the title), so people aren't getting confused between official and fan creations and canon.

I should see if I could make an ODST game using the ODST engine, though that's probably not feasible because it's never been publicly released aside from the game ODST, and to decomplie that would cost so much fucking money, I'd have to spend money on a Jtag and that's just the beginning.
Just use one of the many open source engines that are available.

Aside from the main Halo 1 Engine and the Halo 2 map editor, what other ones?


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Hence work in progress.. By the way, ODST is being given to us, for FREE (As long as you have MCC of course).. Little room for bitching to be honest

Actually, no it isn't. See, 343 made a deal with satan. They give us ODST for free so we can enjoy it in glorious HD. But only if they killed the main character off so that no more ODST in glorious HD can ever be made again.

Them sneaky fucks.
More than one ODST exists you know.
Rookie wasn't even really a character. He was just a plot/story vehicle.

The Rookie was suppose to be the player from what I know. That's why he never spoke. As in you the player identify with the rookie.
The Rookie was a story/plot vehicle. He only existed to take you through the game's story.
He wasn't even a character really, just a blank slab.

Rookie being killed off doesn't rule out the possibility of future ODST games.

Sadly that's not what kills it off, since 343 converted ODST's into Spartan 4's somehow or whatever they're called.
ODST's still exist. Not all of them became S-IVs.