Fallout 4 is not a Fallout game

Luciana · October 04, 2015, 04:40:28 PM

I also like how we're judging it when we haven't even played it yet.

Why don't you actually give it a shot and form your own "intelligent" opinion before falling to the masses online who suddenly think because they played Fallout 1 and 2, AFTER they were introduced to the series with 3/NV, that they know what's better and what isn't.

Onion · October 04, 2015, 04:54:06 PM

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This word is such a fucking meme now.

Deleted · October 04, 2015, 05:05:33 PM

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Spartan · October 04, 2015, 05:26:50 PM

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big dog · October 04, 2015, 05:41:37 PM

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Don't remind me of that moron.

True Turquoise · October 04, 2015, 05:43:26 PM

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moron.

Spoiler

The stuff he spews out is amazing

BaconShelf · October 04, 2015, 05:46:54 PM

I'm waiting til I play the game before judging the system.

I don't feel I have enough information to make an informed opinion.

The only thing I kind of agree with is the no weapon degradation thing. Sad it's gone, but it was pretty much a non-issue anyway.

Mr. Psychologist · October 04, 2015, 06:16:44 PM

Hardcore mode would be nice, but I'm not holding my hopes up too much.

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Azumarill · October 04, 2015, 06:35:14 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 04, 2015, 06:31:36 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:16:44 PM
Hardcore mode would be nice, but I'm not holding my hopes up too much.
The majority of the Bethesda fanbase is like the most casual fanbase in existence. They think normal mode on easy is tough, they thought skyrim was tough.

i love that bethesda's idea of dynamic difficulty scaling is "GIVE EM A BUNCH OF HP AND MAKE EM DO A TON OF DMG"

Mr. Psychologist · October 04, 2015, 06:39:18 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 04, 2015, 06:31:36 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 04, 2015, 06:16:44 PM
Hardcore mode would be nice, but I'm not holding my hopes up too much.
The majority of the Bethesda fanbase is like the most casual fanbase in existence. They think normal mode on easy is tough, they thought skyrim was tough.

Unfortunately.

Ah well, there is always mods to add it but it just isn't quite the same imo.

Deleted · October 04, 2015, 07:13:37 PM

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Is he still going arround telling everyone Halo 5 has killstreaks and Smart-Pistols?

Spartan · October 04, 2015, 07:15:10 PM

Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 04, 2015, 07:13:37 PM

Quote from: SpartanT on October 04, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
Quote from: Chaos Metal Dragon on October 04, 2015, 05:05:33 PM
Ok BDobbinsFTW
this thread =

Is he still going arround telling everyone Halo 5 has killstreaks and Smart-Pistols?

Not sure, I just see his videos pop up my recommended videos sometimes

Luciana · October 04, 2015, 08:41:18 PM

I thought hardcore mode for New Vegas was broken and annoying to begin with. It probably doesn't help that it isn't the best combat.

GAMERG0D · October 04, 2015, 08:51:53 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 04, 2015, 04:40:28 PM

I also like how we're judging it when we haven't even played it yet.

Why don't you actually give it a shot and form your own "intelligent" opinion before falling to the masses online who suddenly think because they played Fallout 1 and 2, AFTER they were introduced to the series with 3/NV, that they know what's better and what isn't.

Anyone with eyes can see that Fallout 4 is going to be the most casualized game in the series to date and that it's not an RPG.

Luciana · October 04, 2015, 09:47:29 PM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 04, 2015, 08:51:53 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 04, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
I also like how we're judging it when we haven't even played it yet.

Why don't you actually give it a shot and form your own "intelligent" opinion before falling to the masses online who suddenly think because they played Fallout 1 and 2, AFTER they were introduced to the series with 3/NV, that they know what's better and what isn't.
Anyone with eyes can see that Fallout 4 is going to be the most casualized game in the series to date and that it's not an RPG.

Right

that entire 10 min gameplay we see personifies the entire series. Gotcha.

Batch · October 04, 2015, 10:00:10 PM

Whats with all the bitching? The bitches are actually just waiting for a rise. And everyone else, just keep it chilled and dont play the 'game'

We only got a month to go lads. Just hold it in.

GAMERG0D · October 04, 2015, 10:28:48 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 04, 2015, 09:47:29 PM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 04, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: Luciana on October 04, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
I also like how we're judging it when we haven't even played it yet.

Why don't you actually give it a shot and form your own "intelligent" opinion before falling to the masses online who suddenly think because they played Fallout 1 and 2, AFTER they were introduced to the series with 3/NV, that they know what's better and what isn't.
Anyone with eyes can see that Fallout 4 is going to be the most casualized game in the series to date and that it's not an RPG.
Right

that entire 10 min gameplay we see personifies the entire series. Gotcha.

This is coming from the Skyrim apologist.

Did you see the crosshairs?
Did you see the sprint?
Did you see the removal of skills?
Did you see the removal of weapon degradation?
Did you see the removal of repair?

Also do I have to remind you who is developing this game - the same guys that made Fallout 3.

Which is Oblivion with guns.

Luciana · October 04, 2015, 10:38:16 PM

Right

Crosshairs and sprint are something damaging to an an RPG with FPS mechanics? Seriously? There is a reason the 2nd top mod (first exclusing the mod manager) for New Vegas is Project Nevada which adds just that. Bethesda is honestly listening to the community on that. Not much of an argument.

Skills was always basic in Fallout games, and I mean as basic as an RPG can get. It's not innovative at all, and while I was at first concerned it's gone, I welcome something new to try.

As for weapon degradation and repair, well idk why you made two points there, because they go hand in hand. I don't know if it's there, but would like it to be. If not I'm sure there will be mods for it.

New Vegas is also "Oblivion with guns" considering it's running on the same exact engine and gameplay with the only thing improving the god awful shooting being an ADS which, for console players, was still shit.

Incan · October 05, 2015, 02:23:22 AM

I'm going to wait for reviews before drawing many conclusions. Sure as hell not going to pre-order though, thing will be packed with bugs at launch.

Luciana · October 05, 2015, 02:44:43 AM

Quote from: Incan on October 05, 2015, 02:23:22 AM

I'm going to wait for reviews before drawing many conclusions. Sure as hell not going to pre-order though, thing will be packed with bugs at launch.

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Turkey · October 05, 2015, 04:37:37 AM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 04, 2015, 10:28:48 PM

Did you see the removal of weapon degradation?
Did you see the removal of repair?

Those weren't added until Fallout 3. Repair was almost entirely useless in 1 & 2.

Mordo · October 05, 2015, 09:45:28 AM

tbh I am kind of concerned about lack of weapon degradation. But I'm not sure where Door is getting that from because Bethesda has yet to make an official announcement on which we probably won't get. Perhaps it's an exclusive feature to a possible hardcore mode. Reserving judgement until release.

Skills is just a fanboy meme at this point. There are plenty of successful perk orientated rpgs that enhance the game, as was aforementioned; The Witcher 3. Using Skyrim as a testament to the 'failure of perks' is hardly fair, since the perks were pretty much useless in the game.

On a more positive sidenote it's pretty verifiable that power armor degradation is going to be a key feature, at least.

Ásgeirr · October 05, 2015, 09:49:39 AM

Repair as it was, was nothing more than an annoyance

Mordo · October 05, 2015, 09:54:32 AM

Also, degradation was introduced in F3. There was no durability in ~~Door's regurgitated opinions~~ Fallout 1 and 2.

Girl of Mystery · October 05, 2015, 10:21:16 AM

Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 04, 2015, 10:28:48 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 04, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
Quote from: GAMERG0D on October 04, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: Luciana on October 04, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
I also like how we're judging it when we haven't even played it yet.

Why don't you actually give it a shot and form your own "intelligent" opinion before falling to the masses online who suddenly think because they played Fallout 1 and 2, AFTER they were introduced to the series with 3/NV, that they know what's better and what isn't.
Anyone with eyes can see that Fallout 4 is going to be the most casualized game in the series to date and that it's not an RPG.
Right

that entire 10 min gameplay we see personifies the entire series. Gotcha.
This is coming from the Skyrim apologist.

Did you see the crosshairs?
Did you see the sprint?
Did you see the removal of skills?
Did you see the removal of weapon degradation?
Did you see the removal of repair?

Also do I have to remind you who is developing this game - the same guys that made Fallout 3.

Which is Oblivion with guns.

None of those = RPG

Mordo · October 05, 2015, 10:21:56 AM

Quote from: Daoko on October 05, 2015, 09:49:39 AM

Repair as it was, was nothing more than an annoyance

I suppose from a post apocalyptic perspective it would make sense for weapons to deteriorate after gratuitous amounts of usage.

But likewise, I'm not going to lose any sleep if Bethesda haven't integrated it. Nothing a mod won't fix if you're really that distraught about it.

i am karjala takaisin · October 05, 2015, 04:17:07 PM

Quote from: Madman Mordo on October 05, 2015, 09:54:32 AM

Also, degradation was introduced in F3. There was no durability in ~~Door's regurgitated opinions~~ Fallout 1 and 2.

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Naru · October 05, 2015, 04:18:15 PM

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