Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 04:24:30 PMQuote from: Luciana on March 15, 2015, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 11:36:13 AMWhereas The Enclave were essentially just the mustache twirling bad guys that Bethesda purposefully wanted you to dislike.Well in Bethesda's defense, this is the same people from Fallout 2 who wanted to gas the whole planet and wipe out like 99% of the population because they were "mutated". So naturally they're gonna be just as bad in Fallout 2 as they are in 3. Need I remind you they just slaughtered a whole vault in Fallout 2.People seem to forget that Obsidian were the ones that made those guys insanely evil, not Bethesda.Um, what?Fallout 2 was developed by Black Isle Studios, not Obsidian.Yeah, which shut down and they moved over to Obsidian. Guys that made the first 2 Fallout's made NV.
Quote from: Luciana on March 15, 2015, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 11:36:13 AMWhereas The Enclave were essentially just the mustache twirling bad guys that Bethesda purposefully wanted you to dislike.Well in Bethesda's defense, this is the same people from Fallout 2 who wanted to gas the whole planet and wipe out like 99% of the population because they were "mutated". So naturally they're gonna be just as bad in Fallout 2 as they are in 3. Need I remind you they just slaughtered a whole vault in Fallout 2.People seem to forget that Obsidian were the ones that made those guys insanely evil, not Bethesda.Um, what?Fallout 2 was developed by Black Isle Studios, not Obsidian.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 11:36:13 AMWhereas The Enclave were essentially just the mustache twirling bad guys that Bethesda purposefully wanted you to dislike.Well in Bethesda's defense, this is the same people from Fallout 2 who wanted to gas the whole planet and wipe out like 99% of the population because they were "mutated". So naturally they're gonna be just as bad in Fallout 2 as they are in 3. Need I remind you they just slaughtered a whole vault in Fallout 2.People seem to forget that Obsidian were the ones that made those guys insanely evil, not Bethesda.
Whereas The Enclave were essentially just the mustache twirling bad guys that Bethesda purposefully wanted you to dislike.
Quote from: Luciana on March 15, 2015, 04:44:49 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 04:24:30 PMQuote from: Luciana on March 15, 2015, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 11:36:13 AMWhereas The Enclave were essentially just the mustache twirling bad guys that Bethesda purposefully wanted you to dislike.Well in Bethesda's defense, this is the same people from Fallout 2 who wanted to gas the whole planet and wipe out like 99% of the population because they were "mutated". So naturally they're gonna be just as bad in Fallout 2 as they are in 3. Need I remind you they just slaughtered a whole vault in Fallout 2.People seem to forget that Obsidian were the ones that made those guys insanely evil, not Bethesda.Um, what?Fallout 2 was developed by Black Isle Studios, not Obsidian.Yeah, which shut down and they moved over to Obsidian. Guys that made the first 2 Fallout's made NV.I genuinely cannot find evidence for this assertion anywhere.
SpoilerFallout NV was the successor, and therefore is just better by default, what with ironsights, perk improvements, higher level cap, longer and multipathed story, etc, etc.But... Fallout 3 is the one I love more, play more, and enjoy more. It's got more "stuff" in it, even if DC is pretty much a Famous-landmark-and-Metro-simulator. There's far more undiscovered locations, each with either a comedic touch (The Feral Ghoul who loves plungers under an overpass), depressing (the radio tower broadcasts, like the one with the injured boy, or the secret chinese outpost) or just rewarding (The Keller Tapes and the Quest for the Holy MIRV).I hate when people go "But it's been 200 years, DC wouldn't be a wasteland, New Vegas is more realistic". What a load o' shite. DC got hit by several nukes, as shown by the damage done to the Pentagon, White House, and several military installations, whereas New Vegas got off relatively scott-free because of House's fucking laser defence system, and yet still New Vegas is somehow fucked up anyway to a lesser extent. If anything, Fallout 3 shows a truer representation of what the series was advertised as, a post-apocalyptic scenario, not a retro-futuristic western with casinos.That said, I concede that Fallout 3 falls on some accounts. Story is pretty much going to be the same, with your only choice being help the White Knights of the Brotherhood of Steel, or get shot at and looked-on with contempt by the yucky Outcasts and Enclave, or get battered around by the stupid green hulks. Oh, and Little Lamplight. God I hate that place, full of fucking kids who evict everyone past 16 yet still exist after 200 years...I'd rather now dwell on that.
Quote from: SuperIrish on March 15, 2015, 06:49:49 PMSpoilerFallout NV was the successor, and therefore is just better by default, what with ironsights, perk improvements, higher level cap, longer and multipathed story, etc, etc.But... Fallout 3 is the one I love more, play more, and enjoy more. It's got more "stuff" in it, even if DC is pretty much a Famous-landmark-and-Metro-simulator. There's far more undiscovered locations, each with either a comedic touch (The Feral Ghoul who loves plungers under an overpass), depressing (the radio tower broadcasts, like the one with the injured boy, or the secret chinese outpost) or just rewarding (The Keller Tapes and the Quest for the Holy MIRV).I hate when people go "But it's been 200 years, DC wouldn't be a wasteland, New Vegas is more realistic". What a load o' shite. DC got hit by several nukes, as shown by the damage done to the Pentagon, White House, and several military installations, whereas New Vegas got off relatively scott-free because of House's fucking laser defence system, and yet still New Vegas is somehow fucked up anyway to a lesser extent. If anything, Fallout 3 shows a truer representation of what the series was advertised as, a post-apocalyptic scenario, not a retro-futuristic western with casinos.That said, I concede that Fallout 3 falls on some accounts. Story is pretty much going to be the same, with your only choice being help the White Knights of the Brotherhood of Steel, or get shot at and looked-on with contempt by the yucky Outcasts and Enclave, or get battered around by the stupid green hulks. Oh, and Little Lamplight. God I hate that place, full of fucking kids who evict everyone past 16 yet still exist after 200 years...I'd rather now dwell on that.Quality post my friend. I really wanna play some FO3 again simply for the metro's. They handled that so well in that game.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 04:58:04 PMQuote from: Luciana on March 15, 2015, 04:44:49 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 04:24:30 PMQuote from: Luciana on March 15, 2015, 04:21:00 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 15, 2015, 11:36:13 AMWhereas The Enclave were essentially just the mustache twirling bad guys that Bethesda purposefully wanted you to dislike.Well in Bethesda's defense, this is the same people from Fallout 2 who wanted to gas the whole planet and wipe out like 99% of the population because they were "mutated". So naturally they're gonna be just as bad in Fallout 2 as they are in 3. Need I remind you they just slaughtered a whole vault in Fallout 2.People seem to forget that Obsidian were the ones that made those guys insanely evil, not Bethesda.Um, what?Fallout 2 was developed by Black Isle Studios, not Obsidian.Yeah, which shut down and they moved over to Obsidian. Guys that made the first 2 Fallout's made NV.I genuinely cannot find evidence for this assertion anywhere.You really don't think the guys who made the first two fallouts aren't the ones who made NV?They added a lot of cut content from 2 like the talking toaster, and a lot of the Van Burn stuff (Caesar's Legion) made it in NV. A number of other things were plans for the earlier game. Obviously not all of them, but a few of the higher up devs did.http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_developersYou can find some more info there if you want.
>New Vegas devsYeah, I'm completely aware Obsidian developed NV. That doesn't provide any evidence as to how they developed or put in creative input into Fallout 1 or 2.
I hate when people go "But it's been 200 years, DC wouldn't be a wasteland, New Vegas is more realistic". What a load o' shite. DC got hit by several nukes, as shown by the damage done to the Pentagon, White House, and several military installations
Fallout 3 DLC > New Vegas DLC
Quote from: A Cheese Potato on March 15, 2015, 09:40:43 PMQuote from: ねこ on March 15, 2015, 09:21:49 PMFallout 3 DLC > New Vegas DLCew noDisappointing me day after day 1st a desticle now dis such great dishono
Quote from: ねこ on March 15, 2015, 09:21:49 PMFallout 3 DLC > New Vegas DLCew no
Quote from: A Cheese Potato on March 15, 2015, 09:50:41 PMQuote from: ねこ on March 15, 2015, 09:47:35 PMQuote from: A Cheese Potato on March 15, 2015, 09:40:43 PMQuote from: ねこ on March 15, 2015, 09:21:49 PMFallout 3 DLC > New Vegas DLCew noDisappointing me day after day 1st a desticle now dis such great dishonothe only good one is broken steel>Not liking Operation Anchorage & Mothership Zeta Such great dishono!
Quote from: ねこ on March 15, 2015, 09:47:35 PMQuote from: A Cheese Potato on March 15, 2015, 09:40:43 PMQuote from: ねこ on March 15, 2015, 09:21:49 PMFallout 3 DLC > New Vegas DLCew noDisappointing me day after day 1st a desticle now dis such great dishonothe only good one is broken steel
who the fuck gives a shit about realism in video gamesit's a game about a fucking nuclear apocalypse with aliens and slingshot micro-nuke launchers.What is more jarring is the fact that 200 years after the war, DC is still such a shithole even though after 70 something years the west was 20x more civilized and was already rebuilding.ffs, some consistency would be nice.It's a shame Toodddddddd wanted to make the game HURRDURR S00PER SURVIVAL MANNNN instead of what the original games were.
Fallout 3 Or New Vegas?
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