So you're upset that they're doing something different?
Yes, but I don't hate that. I just feel that they are excluding a lot of people with that, and therefore doing something that different makes me disappointed in the chosen path.Quote from: BritishLemön on November 10, 2014, 09:38:10 AMSo you're upset that they're doing something different?
Let me know when they un-postpone StarCraft: Ghost.
So give them some support, whether it be cheers at their new game, or silent acceptance that as people, they have the right to explore beyond what they are familiar with, and try something new.
I love World of Warcraft, and I was immediately drawn to Overwatch. I signed up for the beta the day it was announced, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. Blizzard has always delivered quality content with great community interaction (Diablo 3 notwithstanding,) so I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of a doubt on this one. So what if it doesn't specifically appeal to Diablo, Starcraft, or Warcraft fans? Blizzard is gonna attract a new crowd with Overwatch, and many current Blizz fans will surely play as well. The more the merrier, I say.
People are running out of innovate ideas.That's the problem these days. It's hard to create something original when nearly everything is already out there.
No, you are never out of innovative ideas. The issue is that what is "innovative" doesn't necessarily mean that will have the same amount of people that will play it. Therefore, it's an issue when you are dealing with a couple of millions in production, and need to ship out something that potentially has to sell to a broader market, and that's also a reason as to why some solid indie titles gain attention.Quote from: Decimator Omega on November 11, 2014, 03:24:36 AMPeople are running out of innovate ideas.That's the problem these days. It's hard to create something original when nearly everything is already out there.
That is true. Fair point. I didn't think of that when writing my post.
Which is what Blizzard has been going on for in the past few years. It's not that I hate that, but at the same time Blizzard could still gain plenty of money, and success by satisfying that crowd rather than trying to gain such a huge crowd that World of Warcraft, Hearthstone, Overwatch, and the much criticized Diablo III attempt to capture.Quote from: Decimator Omega on November 11, 2014, 03:29:49 AMThat is true. Fair point. I didn't think of that when writing my post.
They are not doing something ground-breaking when it comes to Overwatch. Of course, re-inventing a whole genre from the gameplay perspective it's a challenge, and my disappointment doesn't stem from that. However, from their attempt to give hints towards the more traditional Blizzard-style at the same time they are tackling a whole new behemoth.You can't really compare your stories with video games that have a huge budget, and a big team of people working on. Despite the fact that I like your point philosophically speaking, and perhaps it is also morally correct, it's not simply how it works on a game company which has a legacy, and a huge audience to appeal to, and is torn between who to pick in that audience to give some attention to.I am also not against supporting Blizzard in this venture; but I am mostly skeptical and disappointed at a new direction that effectively can discard a loyal player base that despite suffering from the different directions that Blizzard has explored with its titles, it has remained there.There's also some surprise in that. Blizzard is indeed picky when it comes to taking onto new ventures, and it is known to cancel even the most interesting titles and scrapping them altogether. Overwatch made it through that, and maybe it does hold some value beyond what can be perceived besides a few articles online and some teaser and cinematic videos. I am not denying that value, I am not denying the work of the people involved, and I do understand the amount of effort, creativity and time that goes into crafting a video game.Quote from: Sandtrap on November 10, 2014, 12:02:37 PMSo give them some support, whether it be cheers at their new game, or silent acceptance that as people, they have the right to explore beyond what they are familiar with, and try something new.Yeah, and effectively the more conservative player base of World of Warcraft was quickly forgotten about, and left to be scattered as the game removed all sort of challenge, and rewards in an addicting manner the most minimal effort. That's the crowd Overwatch will be going for, and it's similar to the crowd Hearthstone went for. It's not necessarily bad, but it's still butchering the fan base.Also, Diablo III wasn't quality? Are we joking here? Diablo III is an AAA title, and benefits of many things that come with it. Of course, it wasn't perfect, and it had some issues which are a completely different subject to convey, but isn't it too convenient to discard Diablo III and what has happened to it to appeal to the very same crowd that Overwatch is trying to? Why do you think many players jumped ship from Diablo III, and went quickly towards Path of Exile, and in a similar manner many World of Warcraft players left competitive PvP completely or the game?Blizzard wants to tackle new ideas? That's alright. They can explore whatever ideas they might have, and that's their call, and right to do so. However, doing this at the expense of a fan base which has been loyal to it during the early WarCraft games, StarCraft, and even with early World of Warcraft? That's not fine, it's not simply something that should be acceptable. If they want to wipe their hands off that player base then they should come out and do that instead of subtly hinting some ties with what they have done in the past just for the sake of show and tell.Quote from: Azumarill on November 10, 2014, 12:20:11 PMI love World of Warcraft, and I was immediately drawn to Overwatch. I signed up for the beta the day it was announced, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. Blizzard has always delivered quality content with great community interaction (Diablo 3 notwithstanding,) so I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of a doubt on this one. So what if it doesn't specifically appeal to Diablo, Starcraft, or Warcraft fans? Blizzard is gonna attract a new crowd with Overwatch, and many current Blizz fans will surely play as well. The more the merrier, I say.
Quote from: Lord Commissar on November 10, 2014, 12:43:31 PMLet me know when they un-postpone StarCraft: Ghost.ThisYou know how bad I wanted that game to come out when I was younger? And then BAM! Blizzard cancels it.
Quote from: Jono on November 10, 2014, 02:51:56 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on November 10, 2014, 12:43:31 PMLet me know when they un-postpone StarCraft: Ghost.ThisYou know how bad I wanted that game to come out when I was younger? And then BAM! Blizzard cancels it.It's not canceled. Blizzard keeps listing it as being postponed which indicates that they eventually want to do something with it.
Quote from: Lord Commissar on November 11, 2014, 01:36:02 PMQuote from: Jono on November 10, 2014, 02:51:56 PMQuote from: Lord Commissar on November 10, 2014, 12:43:31 PMLet me know when they un-postpone StarCraft: Ghost.ThisYou know how bad I wanted that game to come out when I was younger? And then BAM! Blizzard cancels it.It's not canceled. Blizzard keeps listing it as being postponed which indicates that they eventually want to do something with it.Its been like 11 years since they were working on it. I think that we can come to the conclusion that it won't ever come out.