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Well, that really comes down to opinion. If the challenge of other players randomly popping into your world is what you think is the best part of the game, then yes it would ruin the fun. However, that really doesn't sound like what you'd like about it.
So what would I like about it, then? That's really the ultimate question that everyone's refusing to answer, isn't it?
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I'm just trying to clear up issues you seem to have with the game. Sorry. :/
No, you're mostly okay. You're the only person who appears to be capable of any rational discussion here. Everyone else is just like, "DERP GET A SENSE OF HUMOR LOL". "THIS GAME IS OBVIOUSLY TOO HARDCORE FOR YOU."
You do realise you can turn off messages and invasions, right?
Yes. But then what left of the game is there?
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You do realise you can turn off messages and invasions, right?
Yes. But then what left of the game is there?
The game. Invasions and messages are a tiny part of the games.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Also, it's a game about being in a dark, dying world void of hope, and where even the NPC's can betray for their own reasons. Having online players 'betray' you by coming in at random and trying to fuck shit up adds to that if you ask me. Although, the NPC invasions are in the game even if you're offline.
How is that fun?

Seriously.

How is that fun.
Which part? The tone admittedly is not a cheerful one at all, and I understand that's not for everyone. Certain NPCs being deceitful is part of the game, really what's wrong with betrayal in a story/game? NPC invasions can give you a ton of souls and you can earn weapons/armor from them, but you can still avoid them if you're not interested.


 
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The game. Invasions and messages are a tiny part of the games.
Even though two or three people, including yourself, have already admitted that it's the bulk of the game's entertainment value? Not to mention numerous other accounts I've seen on the Internet?


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
So what would I like about it, then? That's really the ultimate question that everyone's refusing to answer, isn't it?
Take your pick. The challenging bosses and gameplay, the way the lore is something you need to search for and discover as it isn't handed straight to you(minus the intro cutscene of course), the variety of weapons that allow different playstyles, and the sense of accomplishment after overcoming something that was kicking your ass.

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No, you're mostly okay. You're the only person who appears to be capable of any rational discussion here. Everyone else is just like, "DERP GET A SENSE OF HUMOR LOL". "THIS GAME IS OBVIOUSLY TOO HARDCORE FOR YOU."
It's Challenger, Lemon, and Kiyo. They always act very confrontational and aggressive, which makes most people think they're just shitheads who hate you for being different. Maybe I've just gotten used to them, though.


 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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What's interesting here is that when writing down messages, you can only pick from very specific sets of words, none of which including any swears or anything hostile and condescending. There is absolutely no way that anyone called you a faggot or any other insult through an Orange Soapstone Message.
oh my god

do you honestly expect me to remember exactly what the message said

i embellished the message for comedic effect

jesus fucking christ
What I've gathered from this is that you're all just a bunch of mad fanboys who are upset that someone doesn't like your little game. Aww. I remembered when I cared that much about people's opinions over games...
Not at all. Just correcting you.
You're not convincing.
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While also conveniently claiming there was a message in a place where it is literally impossible for player made messages to appear at that point in the game?
it doesn't matter who the fuck made it

it was THERE

it was a message put there by developers and it was a TRAP


 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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In that case you are either not telling the truth, or there was something very wrong with your game. I just played through that part of the game again to be sure, and the only message there is the one telling you that tapping the B button makes you backstep.
You don't remember the staircase, and then the message telling you to go up it. And then a boulder falls on you. I don't know, I can't really make something like that up. It's too stupid and unnecessary.


 
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You're full of shit. The developers don't leave misleading messages.
Technically it wasn't "misleading" because I believe all it said was to go up the stairs, but it didn't say anything about it being safe to go up the stairs.

That's still a fucking stupid trick regardless.


 
 
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Welp, that's not the area I'm talking about.


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In that case you are either not telling the truth, or there was something very wrong with your game. I just played through that part of the game again to be sure, and the only message there is the one telling you that tapping the B button makes you backstep.
You don't remember the staircase, and then the message telling you to go up it. And then a boulder falls on you. I don't know, I can't really make something like that up. It's too stupid and unnecessary.
"This game doesn't hold my hand so it sucks"


 
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In that case you are either not telling the truth, or there was something very wrong with your game. I just played through that part of the game again to be sure, and the only message there is the one telling you that tapping the B button makes you backstep.
You don't remember the staircase, and then the message telling you to go up it. And then a boulder falls on you. I don't know, I can't really make something like that up. It's too stupid and unnecessary.
"This game doesn't hold my hand so it sucks"
"I can't read, so I suck."
Yes, you do.

Fuck games that don't throw unavoidable shit at you. They're just holding your hand.
That's the game. You have to stay on your toes.
Then I hate it. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.

You can teach players to stay on their toes in more intelligent, fair ways. Dark Souls is just a piece of shit.
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In that case you are either not telling the truth, or there was something very wrong with your game. I just played through that part of the game again to be sure, and the only message there is the one telling you that tapping the B button makes you backstep.
You don't remember the staircase, and then the message telling you to go up it. And then a boulder falls on you. I don't know, I can't really make something like that up. It's too stupid and unnecessary.
"This game doesn't hold my hand so it sucks"
"I can't read, so I suck."
Yes, you do.

Fuck games that don't throw unavoidable shit at you. They're just holding your hand.
That boulder is very much avoidable, actually.

The game is designed to be unforgiving. Calling it bad because it's unforgiving just makes you look dumb.


 
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The game is designed to be unforgiving.
The game is designed to be bad? Well, okay, but don't pretend that it's good, then.
Wait, in Sen's Fortress?
I don't knooow. I'm not a Dark Souls fan. I think it's like, right after the tutorial part. The first area you get to after the tutorial, or maybe it's still the tutorial. I don't know. There was a staircase boulder trap, and even if it is avoidable, it shouldn't be there.

All the traps should be developer made and done without messages. Like in a good game. Zelda, for fuck's sake, has all kinds of traps that are difficult to avoid, but don't need the cheap "GO IN THIS ROOM" shit.


 
 
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The game is designed to be unforgiving.
The game is designed to be bad? Well, okay, but don't pretend that it's good, then
Unforgiving =/= bad
The game doesn't hold your hand, and that's a good thing.

I bet you complain that racing games have cars and that FPS games have guns too.


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]Unforgiving =/= bad
The game doesn't hold your hand, and that's a good thing.

I bet you complain that racing games have cars and that FPS games have guns too.
Too bad I don't.


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In that case you are either not telling the truth, or there was something very wrong with your game. I just played through that part of the game again to be sure, and the only message there is the one telling you that tapping the B button makes you backstep.
You don't remember the staircase, and then the message telling you to go up it. And then a boulder falls on you. I don't know, I can't really make something like that up. It's too stupid and unnecessary.
Well, if you're telling the complete truth, then the only thing I can think of is that someone somehow exploited a glitch that let them interact with others in the tutorial area, something that is usually not possible.

Here is a video of the area we're talking about. The only message anywhere near the bottom of the staircase is the one he reads at 0:55, and it's the one about rolling and backstepping.

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That was painful to watch


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The game is designed to be unforgiving.
The game is designed to be bad? Well, okay, but don't pretend that it's good, then.
Wait, in Sen's Fortress?
I don't knooow. I'm not a Dark Souls fan. I think it's like, right after the tutorial part. The first area you get to after the tutorial, or maybe it's still the tutorial. I don't know. There was a staircase boulder trap, and even if it is avoidable, it shouldn't be there.

All the traps should be developer made and done without messages. Like in a good game. Zelda, for fuck's sake, has all kinds of traps that are difficult to avoid, but don't need the cheap "GO IN THIS ROOM" shit.
Either you've never played a souls game and are trolling or you're just mad because you suck at them.


 
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Yeah, because who could ever dislike Dark Souls? BEST GAME EVER ABSOLUTELY FLAWLESS