DAILY REMINDER THAT FALLOUT 3 SUCKS AND BETHESDA WRITERS HAVE SUCKED SINCE 2003

RustingFloor · January 13, 2015, 11:22:21 AM

When they try to do "gray" moral choices, they fall flat on their face. Their solution to making something morally ambiguous is just to make both options suck. You can see this in the Tenpenny Tower quest line. Either you keep the ghouls out, and have the game call you an evil racist meanie, or let them in and have them slaughter all of the current residents. There is no "good" option, no silver lining. Both options are wrong. You have nothing to strive for, and a good player will be driven to apathy rather standing by their tough decision. The gray area in the Pitt DLC comes down to both sides being completely unlikable, and you choosing the lesser of two evils, instead of what you believed was right. This also comes up in the Skyrim Civil War quest line. It doesn't matter whether you pick the Legion or the Stormcloaks; both are terrible and you feel like an asshole after. Most people end up just hating both sides and choosing to ignore the quest line all together.

Compare this to New Vegas' factions. If you go onto any Fallout or gaming forum, you'll find vehement supporters for all four sides of the war, even Caesar's Legion. All choices have their strengths and their drawbacks, and the choice lies in what the individual playing the game believes is right, not just what they dislike the least. That's how you do gray moral choices, not this weak-ass "both options suck balls" bullshit that Bethesda does.

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Girl of Mystery · January 13, 2015, 11:34:42 AM

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Wizard · January 13, 2015, 11:39:06 AM

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Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 13, 2015, 11:43:28 AM

I feel like games in general suck at morality systems. Every action has to have a 'good' or 'bad' moniker attached to it, when sometimes that just doesn't really work. You rarely ever get points for being neutral. And even if you can be a dick, you're still the hero because you still generally follow the plot planned for a hero.

Girl of Mystery · January 13, 2015, 11:45:10 AM

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Ásgeirr · January 13, 2015, 11:51:04 AM

Yeah yeah

Splendid Dust · January 13, 2015, 12:59:31 PM

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Azumarill · January 13, 2015, 01:51:20 PM

fallout 3 was good. this is a really nitpicky argument.

Jono · January 13, 2015, 02:18:18 PM

Fallout 3 is a great game

g💚jira · January 13, 2015, 02:34:43 PM

Hey lizardman, do you have time to sit down and talk about equality?

gats · January 13, 2015, 05:17:52 PM

I will get around to playing Fallout NV I swear

January 13, 2015, 05:29:09 PM

Yeah, I disagree. I loved Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

Daily reminder that different people have different opinions.

Sprungli · January 13, 2015, 06:08:50 PM

What's 'gray'?

Lemy the Lizerd · January 13, 2015, 09:07:40 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 13, 2015, 05:29:09 PM

Yeah, I disagree. I loved Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

Daily reminder that different people have different opinions.

"muh opinions"

Turkey · January 13, 2015, 09:12:53 PM

Daily reminder that other people's opinions have zero bearing on my enjoyment of something.

Nexus · January 14, 2015, 04:39:23 AM

Says the person who continuously sucks the dick of Bethesda on everything.

Mat Cauthon · January 14, 2015, 04:40:11 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 13, 2015, 05:29:09 PM

Yeah, I disagree. I loved Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Skyrim.

Daily reminder that different people have different opinions.

challengerX · January 14, 2015, 04:47:52 AM

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Mattie G Indahouse · January 14, 2015, 04:51:44 AM

That Enclave quest line in Fallout 3 was pretty damn fun though. It was badass being able to storm the Pentagon with a team of Enclave soldiers...Oh wait there is no Enclave story line because Bethesda can't do shit for depth.

Statefarm · January 14, 2015, 06:45:26 AM

Gotta admit I was pissed when I went to Tenpenny tower and everyone was dead.

Didn't even care that I got bad karma for slaughtering every ghoul there.

Lemy the Lizerd · January 14, 2015, 12:17:31 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on January 13, 2015, 09:12:53 PM

Daily reminder that other people's opinions have zero bearing on my enjoyment of something.

It's good to know I'm not responsible for others' shit tastes.

Lemy the Lizerd · January 14, 2015, 12:18:49 PM

Quote from: Nexus on January 14, 2015, 04:39:23 AM

Says the person who continuously sucks the dick of Bethesda on everything.

old bethesda

I suck old bethesda's dick

Cindy · January 14, 2015, 12:24:18 PM

Holy shit.

Finally someone else who agrees that Fallout 3's story is shit and FNV>>>>>FO3

big sponge · January 14, 2015, 01:57:13 PM

There are people who think that Fallout 3 had a good story?

Vosscillate · January 14, 2015, 05:11:35 PM

Generally, I enjoyed exploring Fallout 3 more so than that of the questing. I know that in a Fallout game choices should matter, but playing it in First Person rather than the old isometric view made it worth it. But NV had a way better story and side missions.

The Waifu Master · February 04, 2015, 07:56:18 PM

Ender · February 04, 2015, 09:16:25 PM

I like FO3 more, but that's your opinion.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · February 04, 2015, 09:17:13 PM

The writing is abysmal, I agree. They can still be enjoyable, but that doesn't mean the writing isn't bad.