Canada's New PM opposes Misogyny in Gaming

 
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As if there wasn't already an abundance of reasons to support him.

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“Yes, Yes. I am a feminist. Proud to be a feminist. My mom raised me to be a feminist. My father raised me, he was a different generation but he raised me to respect and defend everyone’s rights, and I deeply grounded my own identity in that, and I am proud to say that I am a feminist,” he said during a portion of the interview that was not aired. “The things we see online, whether it is issues like gamergate or video games misogyny in popular culture, it is something that we need to stand clearly against.”

Trudeau is bae. Honestly, I am so hopeful for Canada's future.
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Feminism and Canada -- two things that no one appears to care about.


 
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After all this time I hear gamergate and I still don't know what that whole thing is.


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Yeah, I mean, I stopped following Gamergate, like, many months ago, and I'm not even sure if it's necessarily relevant anymore, but I mean... Being opposed to the whole shitshow is a pretty good stance to me.


 
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After all this time I hear gamergate and I still don't know what that whole thing is.

Hope this helps.

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The Gamergate controversy began in August 2014 and concerns sexism and progressivism in video game culture. It is most notable for harassment against several feminists in the video game industry, including game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, and cultural critic Anita Sarkeesian. The campaign of harassment was coordinated in IRC channels and online forums such as Reddit, 4chan, and 8chan by an anonymous and amorphous group that ultimately came to be represented by the Twitter hashtag #Gamergate. The harassment included doxing, threats of rape, and death threats as well as being related to a mass shooting threat in protest of an invited speech featuring Sarkeesian.
Gamergate has been described as a manifestation of a culture war over gaming culture diversification, artistic recognition, social criticism of video games, and the gamer social identity. Some of the people using the Gamergate hashtag allege collusion among feminists, progressives, journalists and social critics, which they believe is the cause of increasing social criticism in video game reviews. Some hashtag users have said the goal for their actions is to improve the ethical standards of video game journalism. These concerns have been widely dismissed by commentators as trivial, based on conspiracy theories, unfounded in fact, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics. Users of the hashtag launched email campaigns targeting firms advertising in publications of which they disapproved, asking them to withdraw their advertisements.

Essentially, Gamergate was a movement by neckbeards on reddit, 4chan, etc. against people like Sarkeesian who argue that video game culture is often misogynistic.


 
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Yeah, I mean, I stopped following Gamergate, like, many months ago, and I'm not even sure if it's necessarily relevant anymore, but I mean... Being opposed to the whole shitshow is a pretty good stance to me.

I think he was using it more to show what kinds of things he was against.

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Ah, fair enough.


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I was unaware that there was a building called Gamergate.


 
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I was unaware that there was a building called Gamergate.

What?


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Yeah, I mean, I stopped following Gamergate, like, many months ago, and I'm not even sure if it's necessarily relevant anymore, but I mean... Being opposed to the whole shitshow is a pretty good stance to me.
While there was originally a great point that could have been made about the state of gaming journalism, fucktards and legitimate misogynists turned into a stupid battlecry against women in games (slutshaming, inclusion, the whole shebang).

Since then, even cesspools like /v/ (one of the first perpetrators of Gamergate) tell the activists to fuck off. The idiots ran off to 8chan and decided to spend the rest of their days raiding websites with /pol/ack nonsense.


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After all this time I hear gamergate and I still don't know what that whole thing is.

Hope this helps.

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The Gamergate controversy began in August 2014 and concerns sexism and progressivism in video game culture. It is most notable for harassment against several feminists in the video game industry, including game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, and cultural critic Anita Sarkeesian. The campaign of harassment was coordinated in IRC channels and online forums such as Reddit, 4chan, and 8chan by an anonymous and amorphous group that ultimately came to be represented by the Twitter hashtag #Gamergate. The harassment included doxing, threats of rape, and death threats as well as being related to a mass shooting threat in protest of an invited speech featuring Sarkeesian.
Gamergate has been described as a manifestation of a culture war over gaming culture diversification, artistic recognition, social criticism of video games, and the gamer social identity. Some of the people using the Gamergate hashtag allege collusion among feminists, progressives, journalists and social critics, which they believe is the cause of increasing social criticism in video game reviews. Some hashtag users have said the goal for their actions is to improve the ethical standards of video game journalism. These concerns have been widely dismissed by commentators as trivial, based on conspiracy theories, unfounded in fact, or unrelated to actual issues of ethics. Users of the hashtag launched email campaigns targeting firms advertising in publications of which they disapproved, asking them to withdraw their advertisements.

Essentially, Gamergate was a movement by neckbeards on reddit, 4chan, etc. against people like Sarkeesian who argue that video game culture is often misogynistic.
Did you really link the wikipedia page, which is locked and easily the most one-sided piece of work that makes plenty of politicians' statements demonizing their opponents look silly?

I mean, just shit, any retard that thinks critically could tell that source is garbage.


 
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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.


 
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Did you really link the wikipedia page, which is locked and easily the most one-sided piece of work that makes plenty of politicians' statements demonizing their opponents look silly?

Uh, yeah. I did. Considering that it provided the most basic understanding of the fiasco.

I mean, I didn't substantiate my opinion based on Wikipedia.

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I mean, just shit, any retard that thinks critically could tell that source is garbage.

How is it garbage if it explains the situation? Obviously Sandtrap and Endor don't know much about it. Wikipedia provided a basic understanding of the issue. Sue me, christ.


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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.
She doesn't deserve the constant harassment and threats tbh. Weather or not she a ho.


 
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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.

Guess so. Personally I don't know much about her because by the time I became a feminist it was kind of... not important.


 
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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.
She doesn't deserve the constant harassment and threats tbh. Weather or not she a ho.
True, but she sold her body for positive reviews or something, so like, she doesn't deserve any sympathy in the field of gaming.


 
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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.

Guess so. Personally I don't know much about her because by the time I became a feminist it was kind of... not important.
Considering how many people have never heard of Gamergate (because EVERYTHING needs a "gate" at the end of it. Thanks american media) until it was over, I'd say it never was.


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Did you really link the wikipedia page, which is locked and easily the most one-sided piece of work that makes plenty of politicians' statements demonizing their opponents look silly?

Uh, yeah. I did. Considering that it provided the most basic understanding of the fiasco.

I mean, I didn't substantiate my opinion based on Wikipedia.

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I mean, just shit, any retard that thinks critically could tell that source is garbage.

How is it garbage if it explains the situation? Obviously Sandtrap and Endor don't know much about it. Wikipedia provided a basic understanding of the issue. Sue me, christ.
>"Gamergate is about sexism and progressiveism in video game culture"
Except before I even paid the slightest bit of attention to the subject, I could've told you that it was in response to journalistic malpractice by reviewers, and that some groups of radical leftists online were getting upset and putting together mute lists and trying to censor all opposition that criticized people like Zoe Quinn, Sarkessian, etc.

A clusterfuck is an ample description for the whole thing, but no sides should be taken if you're going to describe the situation to somebody that doesn't know about it. That wikipedia page was clearly written by the biased anti-gamergate side, there's a pro-gamergate side entirely ignored by your attempt at explanation.

It would be like only asking for an American's opinion on Russia during the cold war, or vice-versa. Completely stupid, and in no way guaranteed to give an accurate picture of events.


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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.
She doesn't deserve the constant harassment and threats tbh. Weather or not she a ho.
True, but she sold her body for positive reviews or something, so like, she doesn't deserve any sympathy in the field of gaming.
m8, this has gone far beyond gaming.


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GamerGate is still a thing?


 
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People felt sympathetic for Zoe Quinn in Gamergate? Didn't she have sex with game reviewers or something? She's stupid.
She doesn't deserve the constant harassment and threats tbh. Weather or not she a ho.
True, but she sold her body for positive reviews or something, so like, she doesn't deserve any sympathy in the field of gaming.
m8, this has gone far beyond gaming.
I meant at the time, but yeah.

I don't know what stance Canada would take on said things. Just wag their finger and say "it's wrong!"? Or pull an Australia and ban everything left and right?


 
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Regardless, Trudeau's statement was in reference to the death threats, raids and general harassment of Sarkeesian and co., who are the face of the "feminism in gaming" movement.

I was simply providing context for those two. No need to overreact.


 
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Considering how many people have never heard of Gamergate (because EVERYTHING needs a "gate" at the end of it. Thanks american media) until it was over, I'd say it never was.

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GamerGate is still a thing?
Doesn't gain as much buzz as it did when shit originally hit the fan and people on both sides were going apeshit and others fanned the flames, but there's still people using the hashtag supporting their movement.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/gamergate?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^hashtag

Think they might've had a schism recently too, not sure though.


 
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I don't know what stance Canada would take on said things. Just wag their finger and say "it's wrong!"? Or pull an Australia and ban everything left and right?

I'm not quite sure how this new government will react, or even, how they could...

For one, how do you stop these things, which are mostly American, from not happening? We don't have jurisdiction on yer lands.


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I don't know what stance Canada would take on said things. Just wag their finger and say "it's wrong!"? Or pull an Australia and ban everything left and right?
Seeing as they were considering a blasphemy law, yeah, I'd see them going the Australia route.