Anita Sarkeesian - Assassin's Creed Syndicate Review

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The reviews for Syndicate are all over the place.

Seems to be either you hate it or you love it. Like Black Flag


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Fallout New Vegas put TWO gay people in it. One gay, one lesbian. Did they ever mention ANYTHING about it? Nope. Did those two things define said characters? Absolutely not. In fact unless you actually talked to them about their past/history, it wouldn't even come up. Why? Because it's not what defines them as a character, nor should a sexuality EVER define you for a character. It's a passing thing they VAGUELY mention as they go on about how they ended up where they are, or how they shouldn't be dying.
3! at least 3, that is. besides arcade and veronica, you meet veronica's ex christine in dead money. there might be others. but yeah NV treated sexuality really well.


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This isn't a game review, so much as a social one anyway.

And this is why she's retarded


 
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This isn't a game review, so much as a social one anyway.
And this is why she's retarded
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FUCK SOCIAL CRITIQUES

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Fallout New Vegas put TWO gay people in it. One gay, one lesbian. Did they ever mention ANYTHING about it? Nope. Did those two things define said characters? Absolutely not. In fact unless you actually talked to them about their past/history, it wouldn't even come up. Why? Because it's not what defines them as a character, nor should a sexuality EVER define you for a character. It's a passing thing they VAGUELY mention as they go on about how they ended up where they are, or how they shouldn't be dying.
3! at least 3, that is. besides arcade and veronica, you meet veronica's ex christine in dead money. there might be others. but yeah NV treated sexuality really well.
there was also that lesbian ncr ranger in camp McCarran, she was the one that got raped by cook cook and shtuff


 
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Fallout New Vegas put TWO gay people in it. One gay, one lesbian. Did they ever mention ANYTHING about it? Nope. Did those two things define said characters? Absolutely not. In fact unless you actually talked to them about their past/history, it wouldn't even come up. Why? Because it's not what defines them as a character, nor should a sexuality EVER define you for a character. It's a passing thing they VAGUELY mention as they go on about how they ended up where they are, or how they shouldn't be dying.
3! at least 3, that is. besides arcade and veronica, you meet veronica's ex christine in dead money. there might be others. but yeah NV treated sexuality really well.
there was also that lesbian ncr ranger in camp McCarran, she was the one that got raped by cook cook and shtuff


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Fallout New Vegas put TWO gay people in it. One gay, one lesbian. Did they ever mention ANYTHING about it? Nope. Did those two things define said characters? Absolutely not. In fact unless you actually talked to them about their past/history, it wouldn't even come up. Why? Because it's not what defines them as a character, nor should a sexuality EVER define you for a character. It's a passing thing they VAGUELY mention as they go on about how they ended up where they are, or how they shouldn't be dying.
3! at least 3, that is. besides arcade and veronica, you meet veronica's ex christine in dead money. there might be others. but yeah NV treated sexuality really well.
there was also that lesbian ncr ranger in camp McCarran, she was the one that got raped by cook cook and shtuff
oh yeah shit. i almost forgot about that quest. wasnt she 1st recon?


 
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Fallout New Vegas put TWO gay people in it. One gay, one lesbian. Did they ever mention ANYTHING about it? Nope. Did those two things define said characters? Absolutely not. In fact unless you actually talked to them about their past/history, it wouldn't even come up. Why? Because it's not what defines them as a character, nor should a sexuality EVER define you for a character. It's a passing thing they VAGUELY mention as they go on about how they ended up where they are, or how they shouldn't be dying.
3! at least 3, that is. besides arcade and veronica, you meet veronica's ex christine in dead money. there might be others. but yeah NV treated sexuality really well.
there was also that lesbian ncr ranger in camp McCarran, she was the one that got raped by cook cook and shtuff
oh yeah shit. i almost forgot about that quest. wasnt she 1st recon?
Yeah, she was kinda cool. I remember that she had a side quest where you get to send her to a clinic because she has PTSD it something.


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lol saw that coming a mile away


 
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lol saw that coming a mile away
what


 
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No no, you're trying to justify it by saying that, but no. There is a difference between writing an interesting story/cast of characters and not pandering.
I could easily argue that having an interesting story/cast of characters would be pandering to your interests, ya know. Not that that's a bad thing--I want an interesting set of characters, too. I want that interest pandered to me.

You can pull out the dictionary definition of "pandering" and say that it only applies to "immoral" or "distasteful" things, but clearly, that's not how I'm using the word. A better word to describe what I mean would be "cater", I guess. There's nothing wrong with being catered to, is there? As long as the thing isn't being shoved in your face.
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Aka: Make the tumblr idiots feel happy they have a trans person in the game! It's the SAME THING Mass Effect 3 did with Cortez, who was gay simply for the sake of being gay. Those things DEFINE their characters ironically enough (even though labels shouldn't be a thing in a world where people are ever increasingly wanting to be labeled) rather than the actual content of their character. You knew this was going to be the case too when Ubisoft literally announced there was a trans women in it.

Fallout New Vegas put TWO gay people in it. One gay, one lesbian. Did they ever mention ANYTHING about it? Nope. Did those two things define said characters? Absolutely not. In fact unless you actually talked to them about their past/history, it wouldn't even come up. Why? Because it's not what defines them as a character, nor should a sexuality EVER define you for a character. It's a passing thing they VAGUELY mention as they go on about how they ended up where they are, or how they shouldn't be dying.
I agree with all of this--in fact, it was my point from the beginning. And I think Anita would agree with that, too, if she were to read this post. I honestly would.
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It's sick, terrible, annoying, and anyone who supports that kind of inclusion is missing the entire point of progressing into the world today as we know it.
That's the thing--I don't think anyone actually supports that type of inclusion. I think that's the result of developers not necessarily knowing how not to write "a gay character" instead of "a character who happens to be gay".

No one actually wants characters to be gay for the sake of being gay--I have to wonder where you got this notion from.

Other than Tumblr folk, who are, frankly, irrelevant.
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I promise that will be the last time you see a reply like that in this thread
No, have at it, if you want to. If you have to go on a rant to make a point, go ahead. I actually kinda like it, because it means that this discussion can actually go somewhere, I think. You're clearly impassioned about the subject, and you have a lot to say about it, so say all you need to.


 
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Not ignoring your post--just don't have the time to look over it right now. In class and such.
Get out of these threads and focus on classes, dummy >:I

That's okay, I'd like to talk later anyway and re-read my post to see if I still feel the same post annoyance.
We weren't really doing anything today anyway. lol


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lol saw that coming a mile away
what
>Assassin's Creed Syndicate Review
>only spouts feminist/SJW bullshit


 
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lol saw that coming a mile away
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>Assassin's Creed Syndicate Review
>only spouts feminist/SJW bullshit
well yeah

why wouldn't a feminist talk about feminism on her feminism-based youtube channel

like, what's wrong with looking at games from a feminist perspective? i don't


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I neither fear, nor despise.
This isn't a game review, so much as a social one anyway.
And this is why she's retarded
YEAH

FUCK SOCIAL CRITIQUES

THEY'RE AWFUL

When it's supposed to be a game review, yeah it is.


 
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When it's supposed to be a game review, yeah it is.
Not all game reviews have to focus on the game as a whole. It's possible to look at games critically from a number of different angles--feminism being one of them.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
When it's supposed to be a game review, yeah it is.
Not all game reviews have to focus on the game as a whole. It's possible to look at games critically from a number of different angles--feminism being one of them.

If they aren't looking at the game as a whole, then how can you properly review it? If you look at just part of a game and rate it 10/10, when the other half is shit......it's a bad review.

Of course you can discuss social aspects, but this person clearly has a reputation for talking about social aspects more than anything. Instead of reviewing games, literally just talk about the social aspects of gaming.

That way people don't expect to read a review, and instead read something completely different.


 
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That's a dumb critique, tbh

"Man, I hate it when 'X' Youtuber, who is know for making 'Y' videos, makes 'Y' videos."

People had this critique with BBDobbins and I was like... what a stupid thing to say.


 
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If they aren't looking at the game as a whole, then how can you properly review it? If you look at just part of a game and rate it 10/10, when the other half is shit......it's a bad review.
Uh, no. You're reviewing a particular aspect of it. The purpose of a review is to inform others of the game's quality--and there are number of ways of looking at a game's quality.

The most common is, "is it a fun game to play?"

Another is, "Does the game contain tasteful portrayals of women?"

A 3/10 game may suck, but if it might be a 10/10 when it comes to treating female characters tastefully.

It's just a different way of looking at a game.
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Not everyone cares if a game is fun to play, believe it or not.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
You're reviewing a particular aspect of it.

If you are talking about only part of a game and leaving out parts of it, then you aren't doing a good review imo

If she wants to discuss how female characters are portrayed in games, then it shouldn't be titled "Fallout 4 Review" when it literally doesn't review the game's overall experience.
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You're reviewing a particular aspect of it.
If you are talking about only part of a game and leaving out parts of it, then you aren't doing a good review imo
That's stupid. Her channel is about feminism and critiquing media from a femninistic point of view--what relevance does the rest of the game have to the consistency of her channel?

Anyone visiting a channel called "feministfrequency" can and should expect to see feminist content. If they want a full game review discussing all aspects of the game, they can go elsewhere. Very few people are discussing games from that feminist angle, so she's filling that niche.
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You're reviewing a particular aspect of it.

If you are talking about only part of a game and leaving out parts of it, then you aren't doing a good review imo
Yeah, if they intended to review the entire game, then it'd be a bad review. She isn't reviewing the entire game, thus her review succeeds at its purpose.


I'm actually defending Anita Sarkeesian here


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
So did she actually play the game(which I doubt cause she's not a gamer) or is she just spouting her usual Feminazi bullshit?


 
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Exactly what Lemon said. It's not like she's trying to say there are no other aspects worth talking about--she just wanted to highlights the aspects that were relevant to the style of content she produces.


 
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So did she actually play the game(which I doubt cause she's not a gamer) or is she just spouting her usual Feminazi bullshit?
Watch/read the review.

You also don't have to be a "gamer" to play video games.
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I neither fear, nor despise.
You're reviewing a particular aspect of it.

If you are talking about only part of a game and leaving out parts of it, then you aren't doing a good review imo
Yeah, if they intended to review the entire game, then it'd be a bad review. She isn't reviewing the entire game, thus her review succeeds at its purpose.


I'm actually defending Anita Sarkeesian here

"Assassin's Creed Syndicate Review"

That's the title. I read that and expect to know more about the game than simply it's treatment of female characters. If she wants to discuss only female character portrayal, change the title.


 
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Goodness gracious, great balls of lightning!
So did she actually play the game(which I doubt cause she's not a gamer) or is she just spouting her usual Feminazi bullshit?
Watch/read the review.

You also don't have to be a "gamer" to play video games.
I won't give this lady my view.

My dad isn't a gamer either but I'll make a video of him reviewing Halo 2 and other games.


 
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I won't give this lady my view.
Which is why I included the transcript, so you don't have to give her any views (which is EXTREMELY petty, by the way).


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You're reviewing a particular aspect of it.

If you are talking about only part of a game and leaving out parts of it, then you aren't doing a good review imo
Yeah, if they intended to review the entire game, then it'd be a bad review. She isn't reviewing the entire game, thus her review succeeds at its purpose.


I'm actually defending Anita Sarkeesian here

"Assassin's Creed Syndicate Review"

That's the title. I read that and expect to know more about the game than simply it's treatment of female characters. If she wants to discuss only female character portrayal, change the title.
Who made the video? Anita Sarkeesian
What channel is the video posted on? FeministFrequency
Who is Anita Sarkeesian? A widely known and popular "feminist"
What is FeministFrequency? Anita Sarkeesian's channel where she discusses feminism in the video game industry

The title isn't a lie. It's fine, because that's what it is.

If you weren't able to put these together and come to the obvious conclusion that it wouldn't be a full game review, then god help you.
Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 03:36:29 PM by citrus snek