Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:12:23 PMMy PS2 games say otherwise.A lot of older consoles actually have a lot of games that play at 60fps. It wasn't until recently that it became a selling point.
My PS2 games say otherwise.
Quote from: Latsu15 on October 02, 2014, 07:18:09 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:12:23 PMMy PS2 games say otherwise.A lot of older consoles actually have a lot of games that play at 60fps. It wasn't until recently that it became a selling point.It's kind of sad that something that was pretty standard is now a selling point.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:22:50 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:09:36 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:07:20 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:05:26 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:04:33 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.What, you want me to debate you or something?Well, no not really but its not like a little "here's why I disagree" would have been difficult.I just don't feel like you need 60fps for solid gameplay mechanics.This is exactly what I said earlier. High framerate is basic functionality. It's not an option unless you don't want anyone to enjoy your game.
Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:09:36 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:07:20 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:05:26 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:04:33 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.What, you want me to debate you or something?Well, no not really but its not like a little "here's why I disagree" would have been difficult.I just don't feel like you need 60fps for solid gameplay mechanics.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:07:20 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:05:26 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:04:33 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.What, you want me to debate you or something?Well, no not really but its not like a little "here's why I disagree" would have been difficult.I just don't feel like you need 60fps for solid gameplay mechanics.
Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:05:26 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:04:33 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.What, you want me to debate you or something?Well, no not really but its not like a little "here's why I disagree" would have been difficult.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:04:33 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.What, you want me to debate you or something?
Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.
Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.
Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.
Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.
I usually can barely tell the difference >>
Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:24:25 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:22:50 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:09:36 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:07:20 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:05:26 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:04:33 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:01:51 PMQuote from: SexyPiranha on October 02, 2014, 07:01:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:58:34 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 06:56:07 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 06:53:38 PMI usually can barely tell the difference >>Told like someone who doesn't do a lot of gaming at 60fps. And I mean a solid 60, not fluctuating console bullshit.FYI gameplay and storyline are way more important than graphics.FPS=/=graphicsIn fact I'd almost consider a decent fps important to and an aspect of gameplay.Hardly.Boy, that rebuttle was certainly convincing.What, you want me to debate you or something?Well, no not really but its not like a little "here's why I disagree" would have been difficult.I just don't feel like you need 60fps for solid gameplay mechanics.This is exactly what I said earlier. High framerate is basic functionality. It's not an option unless you don't want anyone to enjoy your game.Whoops. Sorry >.>Nice avatar.
Can we all realize that games like Destiny don't run at 30fps on all hardware for "console parity"? It's because the hardware is shit and they couldn't hit 60fps if they wanted to.
I can play games at 30fps, but 60fps is infinitely more preferable.Going from BF4 on the 360 to BF4 on the PS4 was an absurdly wonderful change (Inb4hurrconsoles<<<PCMustardrice) and it's genuinely hard to play on 30fps after experiencing 60fps for a shooter.For some games it doesn't matter as much, but anything with action/shooting/combat should prioritize FPS over shiny particle effects.
Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:31:58 PMCan we all realize that games like Destiny don't run at 30fps on all hardware for "console parity"? It's because the hardware is shit and they couldn't hit 60fps if they wanted to.Well obviously, they went for parity with the last gen consoles and the Xbone. Density could easily be 60fps on the PS4 and probably on the Xbone if they put more effort in/reduced the 1080p to 720 or 944 (I forget the shitty middle ground).Even if it was 1080/60fps, that wouldn't actually make it less of a bland grindfest though.
Gaming sure, high frame rates make movies look fake, really distracting.
Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:20:50 PMQuote from: Latsu15 on October 02, 2014, 07:18:09 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:12:23 PMMy PS2 games say otherwise.A lot of older consoles actually have a lot of games that play at 60fps. It wasn't until recently that it became a selling point.That, too. I recall that Jak and Daxter/Ratchet and Clank played at 60fps IIRC along with many others.Did they really? Because those were some of my favorites.
Quote from: Latsu15 on October 02, 2014, 07:18:09 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:12:23 PMMy PS2 games say otherwise.A lot of older consoles actually have a lot of games that play at 60fps. It wasn't until recently that it became a selling point.That, too. I recall that Jak and Daxter/Ratchet and Clank played at 60fps IIRC along with many others.
Quote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:40:50 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:20:50 PMQuote from: Latsu15 on October 02, 2014, 07:18:09 PMQuote from: Nuka on October 02, 2014, 07:12:23 PMMy PS2 games say otherwise.A lot of older consoles actually have a lot of games that play at 60fps. It wasn't until recently that it became a selling point.That, too. I recall that Jak and Daxter/Ratchet and Clank played at 60fps IIRC along with many others.Did they really? Because those were some of my favorites.I'm like 80% sure that those games ran at 60fps.
I...I don't get it.Why is FPS so important to some people?
But my eyes only see at 30 FPS!
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 02, 2014, 06:53:26 PMBut my eyes only see at 30 FPS!But we can still tell the difference in the frame rate when we play games. Cameras and our eyes work differently.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 02, 2014, 07:35:25 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:31:58 PMCan we all realize that games like Destiny don't run at 30fps on all hardware for "console parity"? It's because the hardware is shit and they couldn't hit 60fps if they wanted to.Well obviously, they went for parity with the last gen consoles and the Xbone. Density could easily be 60fps on the PS4 and probably on the Xbone if they put more effort in/reduced the 1080p to 720 or 944 (I forget the shitty middle ground).Even if it was 1080/60fps, that wouldn't actually make it less of a bland grindfest though.I honestly don't think they could hit 60fps unless they went for a very low resolution. How do console manufacturers expect to compete with 4k if they can't even hit 1080p? I just don't get it.
Quote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:37:15 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 02, 2014, 07:35:25 PMQuote from: TheOneTrueDesticle on October 02, 2014, 07:31:58 PMCan we all realize that games like Destiny don't run at 30fps on all hardware for "console parity"? It's because the hardware is shit and they couldn't hit 60fps if they wanted to.Well obviously, they went for parity with the last gen consoles and the Xbone. Density could easily be 60fps on the PS4 and probably on the Xbone if they put more effort in/reduced the 1080p to 720 or 944 (I forget the shitty middle ground).Even if it was 1080/60fps, that wouldn't actually make it less of a bland grindfest though.I honestly don't think they could hit 60fps unless they went for a very low resolution. How do console manufacturers expect to compete with 4k if they can't even hit 1080p? I just don't get it.I think it's certainly possible, perhaps not right away though.And 4k is impressive stuff but it won't be the standard for a while at least. Things will basically stay the same, with the bar being shoved up a bit for multiplats.Consoles determine the general standard* of games, because they are the larger and more profitable demographic. When the old gen consoles are phased out, which is beginning to happen now with multiplats going for next/current gen and PC only the features/shit in the game is going to expand (Hopefully)Whilst PC is always going to race ahead and PC exclusive games like Star Citizen are going to dazzle minds it's still going to have to follow the pace of the workhorses to a degree. I know that rustles the jimmies of a few outright elitists and I can understand the feeling when features in BF4 were cut to make it work on the last gen systems but it's just the way things are <.<(/2am incoherent rambling)*I mean in terms of graphics/scale/scope and the like not how good/shit it is.
Quote from: The Waifu God on October 02, 2014, 08:13:59 PMI...I don't get it.Why is FPS so important to some people?Try having a read of this thread. You could learn something.
30fps makes for the most Cinematic™ experience
