I don't get why people think survival is so hard. Silenced lever action rifle that does 170 damage per shot + 4x sneak attack multiplier means pretty much any human or super mutant enemy goes down in one or two shots. I'm at level 45 and have yet to notice any bullet sponge enemies.

Silenced combat shotgun with 32 rounds per reload + jet deals with any big creature like deathclaws or sentry bots with ease.

Deliverer for small shit you don't want to waste ammo on.

As for food/water, it's ridiculously easy to find radstags, yao guai, deathclaws, brahmin, etc, and even easier to find empty bottles. Neither have really been an issue for me. Sleeping is annoying, I'll admit, but saving isn't. There are so many sleeping bags and mattresses scattered across the Commonwealth if you just keep your eyes open.

One of the first mods I need to get when they come to PS4 is increasing the health of enemies on survival.

Know what annoys me?

When I start running in 1st person then switch to 3rd and my character just stops on the spot then starts sprinting again. Shit's annoying.

Quote from: Big Boss on June 06, 2016, 04:54:28 PM

Know what annoys me?

When I start running in 1st person then switch to 3rd and my character just stops on the spot then starts sprinting again. Shit's annoying.

Oh my god yes

Why is it a thing

So I lost my arm somehow

I managed to flip a car by running past it

Wtf

Y'know the game does manage to have a really good atmosphere sometimes. I wandered into Hyde Park in the middle of a heavy rainstorm at night and the flooded portions of the town coupled with the rainwater and dim lighting did feel really cool to explore.

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So I lost my arm somehow

Spoiler

I wish that was an actual thing that could happen somehow

and you're limited to using one handed guns

How would you reload.

YouTube

Tallahassee style

what a great film

Guys

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13762/?

get it

This looks great. So it disables the main quest?

Yummy yummy dinner time

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If you get a mod that slows the timescale, it will also adjust survival accordingly. I have that, darker nights, a rebalance mod (Makes humans (Including player) die in one or two hits but makes PA super strong among other stuff), a delevel mod that lets any enemy spawn at any level and some other things. It makes survival a lot better. Enemies aren't bullet sponges any more. Still challenging enough to make you have to think and plan, but not nearly as frustrating as survival was. I dread fighting deathclaws though, I installed one that buffs all their stats considerably to make them more like their 3/NV counterparts.

Plus my tacticool assault rifle with the see-through scopes and tactical attachments is pretty awesome.

Having night be a lot longer combined with not being able to see anything really makes you want to stay at camp more. I built a small little survival shack in a bus (It looks really cool) and I now actually end up going out on scavenging runs in the day and either trying to get back home (I'm at starlight drivein) or find somewhere to put down a tent and sleep through the night. It's amazing, I love it.

My only real complaint is that makung any enemy spawn at any time is cool for a challenge, but I'm super levelled compared to what I ahould be in regards to equipment. I had an assault rifle and some combat armour by level 5.

you're on xbone right? can you send me the link the these mods?

I'm too lazy to link that shit

But here's the list (In load order)

Loads of Ammo
Spawn Items (Can mess with timescale)
Seph's Brutality (XB1)
Darker Nights Level 0 (darkest)
Another Life - Alternative Start
loads of Ammo - levelled lists
Unleveled Wasteland
Disable Godrays
Deadly Fog
Hardcore Radiation Storms
Tactical Weapon Mods
Deadlier Deathclaws
Campsite
See-Through Scopes

A couple are actually two mods or more because I have all DLC. There's also a fuck ton of new weapons/ armours/ bugfixes scattered throughout and it all works fine. I can post my entire load order if you want.

Thanks, now I just need Far Harbor...

Tried it for a bit. Issue is if you're going female, the character creator is a little buggy. Couldn't change the color of my eyes or hair, or mess with the body scale.

Yeah, the editor for it is the biggest problem so far for me, except for that bug where I couldn't leave.

I'm really having trouble getting back into this game. It's just so damn boring. It's not bad, just BORINGGGGGGGG. I listened to a Fallout 3 song in 4 and it made me realize how much I loved that world, and aesthetic much more. NV plays into that too.

This game though, idk. It just bores me.

Go back eight years ago and you'd be saying the exact same shit about 3. People just love to hate what's popular.

4 is objectively better than 3, in every way. NV is better than 4, though, I'll give you that.

Still waiting for the ability to holster my weapons.

its high noon

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I'm really having trouble getting back into this game. It's just so damn boring. It's not bad, just BORINGGGGGGGG. I listened to a Fallout 3 song in 4 and it made me realize how much I loved that world, and aesthetic much more. NV plays into that too.

This game though, idk. It just bores me.

Go back eight years ago and you'd be saying the exact same shit about 3. People just love to hate what's popular.

4 is objectively better than 3, in every way. NV is better than 4, though, I'll give you that.

I'm not talking about gunplay, or graphics. I'm aware that's better. I said aesthetic, and location, along with the music in general. I liked it all better when I played Fallout 3 first, as opposed to playing Fallout 4 when it first came out.

The location is piss boring to me. In fact the only compliment I'd give it is the verticality they did in the cities. But things like how the guns look? The buildings? The way they changed the nuka cola, medkit packs, water, literally everything? No, I don't like it in the slightest.

In fact I'd argue the guns look like they were designed by a 5 year old. At least 3's guns looked like something real, and rather creative. 4's just look so stupid to me.

Fallout NV plays into this too since it uses the same items and art style and models.

Then you just don't like the aesthetic of the Fallout franchise. There's nothing wrong with that, but 4 is far truer to the feel of the series than 3 was. 3 was just a generic destroyed metropolis, something you might see in Killzone. 4's changes to the buildings, guns, nuka cola bottles, etc, are all in the vein of retrofuturism. They're not supposed to look realistic, Fallout's art style has never been about realism.

I see where you're coming from, though, you should check out The Last Of Us if you haven't played that yet. That's a realistic post-apocalyptic game, unlike the Fallout series.

Quote from: SecondClass on June 06, 2016, 11:50:27 PM

Then you just don't like the aesthetic of the Fallout franchise. There's nothing wrong with that, but 4 is far truer to the feel of the series than 3 was. 3 was just a generic destroyed metropolis, something you might see in Killzone. 4's changes to the buildings, guns, nuka cola bottles, etc, are all in the vein of retrofuturism. They're not supposed to look realistic, Fallout's art style has never been about realism.

I see where you're coming from, though, you should check out The Last Of Us if you haven't played that yet. That's a realistic post-apocalyptic game, unlike the Fallout series.

You are.... COMPLETELY missing the point of what I am saying. I'm not saying the series is realistic. I love Fallout. I'm saying the way THEY CHANGED THE DESIGN ON THINGS BOTHERS ME, AND THE LOCATION OF FALLOUT 4 IS NOT THAT INTERESTING.

And sorry last I checked, the buildings that were destroyed in every Fallout game before 4 that weren't super science like, looked like typical 1950's buildings. It's supposed to have that retro 1950's sci-fi feel to it. Fallout 4 doesn't.

Go back and look at the buildings in Fallout 1 and 2. They were far more like F4 buildings than F3 or FNV buildings. Bethesda changed the design when they acquired the franchise and made 3, then they changed it back to the classic Fallout feel after they got criticism for that. Not liking the location is fine, but Fallout 3 was far from a traditional Fallout art style like Fallout 4 is.